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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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El_Duderino 09

What’s the appeal to TR from his supporters point of view? What do you like about him?

Billy86

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What’s the appeal to TR from his supporters point of view? What do you like about him?

That he shouts about Muslims is really the only option left here. Couldn't be that he tries to expose pedophilia, as he hasn't actually been the one to break any big stories, and if that is what he was trying to do he would be going after them many, many pedos in the EDL which he helped found and would still have plenty of contact for/info about.

The problem, you see, if that they are white, British, non Muslim and largely an ickle bit racist. Tommy doesn't want to mess with this, as it is his key demographic, and the deafening silence of TR supporters in here on pedophilia in the EDL or his lack of action on it more or less proves that.

If it was about the kids they would be horrified about what goes on in the edl that Tommy Robinson founded. But they are not because it is not.

ohnonotgmail

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What’s the appeal to TR from his supporters point of view? What do you like about him?

he reinforces their own prejudices

Danzy

Suppose he is a working class man giving a working class perspective.

That it unpopular with the establishment and middle class probably adds to his appeal to them.

Talking about taboo issues always will get some followers.

Odhinn

Danzy wrote: »

Suppose he is a working class man giving a working class perspective.

That it unpopular with the establishment and middle class probably adds to his appeal to them.

Talking about taboo issues always will get some followers.

I'm "working class" and have no time at all for his shite

BBFAN

Danzy wrote: »

Suppose he is a working class man giving a working class perspective.

That it unpopular with the establishment and middle class probably adds to his appeal to them.

Talking about taboo issues always will get some followers.

So all working class people blame their troubles on "brown" people? Think you're theory is flawed very badly there. :rolleyes:

BBFAN

Odhinn wrote: »

I'm "working class" and have no time at all for his shite

I'm working class and think he's the greatest prick of our time.

ancapailldorcha

He's not really typical of the working classes to be honest. His stepdad was a plumber which, back in the day meant a very nice lifestyle. Then there are his multiple convictions for assault and fraud. Finally, how many working class people have been involved with as many media outlets as Yaxley-Lennon has?

Speaking as a working class man, he disgusts me. He pretends to represent the working class when all he's done is exploit the abuse of children to profit from morons and bigots.

Billy86

Danzy wrote: »

Suppose he is a working class man giving a working class perspective.

That it unpopular with the establishment and middle class probably adds to his appeal to them.

Talking about taboo issues always will get some followers.

So why isn't he talking about the taboo issue of pedophiles in the EDL which he helped create (along with yet another pedophile, Richard Price)?

That's a group he has huge numbers of contacts with and info on, so why in your opinion is he in the least bit interested in it?

donkeykong5

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

moonage

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What’s the appeal to TR from his supporters point of view? What do you like about him?

I admire his bravery in sticking to his beliefs despite the persecution he has received from the state.

They want to shut him up and have repeatadly harrassed him and imprisoned him on flimsy grounds, with many spells of solitary confinement. Most people would have given in early on but TR has the courage of his convictions and doesn't let the bastards grind him down. He acknowledges that there's a good chance he will be killed in prison, yet he carries on.

Until TR I thought there was freedom of speech in the UK but the way he's being treated is more like Stalinist Russia in the 1930s.

As to his views on Islam, I largely agree with them and can understand how he came to them, given his upbringing in Luton.

ohnonotgmail

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why is it always videos with Tommy fans? Have they heard of autocorrect?

A song?? jesus. I'll stick to leonard cohen.

kowloon

Grayson wrote: »

here's a video of a comedian talking to a load of EDL supporters. The supporters in general are some of the dumbest people you could meet

Watched the video, and while they do look like a bunch of football hooligans the ending seems a little suspicious. It's dishonest buttering the guy up off camera and playing nice until you have enough footage. I think you need to be completely square with these people or you only lend credence to their 'biased liberal media' claims.

ancapailldorcha

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

Insisting that other people go research your argument for you means you don't have one in my experience.

JupiterKid

You know we live in strange times when gay men - a writer of gay pulp erotia among them - openly declare their support for Tommy Robinson and his EDL thugs.

Billy86

moonage wrote: »

I admire his bravery in sticking to his beliefs despite the persecution he has received from the state..

What beliefs are these though? It's not protecting children from pedophiles or else he would be exposing the litany of pedophiles in the EDL where he has so many contacts. Yet instead of doing that, he just ignores it - which is at least better than when he was defending them as innocent and "stitched up".

So what are Tommy Robinsons beliefs that he stands for and sticks to?

AllForIt

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What do you like about him?

I think he's rather hot and I like his haircuts.

donkeykong5

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

Insisting that other people go research your argument for you means you don't have one in my experience.

If I could share it on the thread I would. But I'm not that great on the internet . Maybe you could put it up. So everyone could see the true story of Tommy Robinson. !

GinAndBitter

donkeykong5 wrote: »

If I could share it on the thread I would. But I'm not that great on the internet . Maybe you could put it up. So everyone could see the true story of Tommy Robinson. !

I don't know your obsession is with that particular video but it's not going to win him any fans here.

There's a lot more to the whole story than one video of a protest.

ancapailldorcha

donkeykong5 wrote: »

If I could share it on the thread I would. But I'm not that great on the internet . Maybe you could put it up. So everyone could see the true story of Tommy Robinson. !

I'm not rooting around the internet for something you can't be bothered to post.

moonage

Billy86 wrote: »

So what are Tommy Robinsons beliefs that he stands for and sticks to?

He believes Islam is a bad ideology and is not compatible with liberal western democracy.

He believes that because the authorities don't want to be labeled racist, Muslims who commit wrongdoings aren't dealt with in the same way as non-Muslims.

He believes freedom of expression in the UK is being eroded and the UK is turning into a police state.

El_Duderino 09

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

How about you put it in your own words. I’m genuinely curious to know what his supporters think he represents.

El_Duderino 09

moonage wrote: »

I admire his bravery in sticking to his beliefs despite the persecution he has received from the state.

They want to shut him up and have repeatadly harrassed him and imprisoned him on flimsy grounds, with many spells of solitary confinement. Most people would have given in early on but TR has the courage of his convictions and doesn't let the bastards grind him down. He acknowledges that there's a good chance he will be killed in prison, yet he carries on.

Couldn’t you say the same of anyone who breaks the law and doesn’t stop?

moonage wrote: »

Until TR I thought there was freedom of speech in the UK but the way he's being treated is more like Stalinist Russia in the 1930s.

Surely you heard of lots of Muslim “hate preachers” who have been "persecuted" by the law. Abu Hamsa was one example.

moonage wrote: »

As to his views on Islam, I largely agree with them and can understand how he came to them, given his upbringing in Luton.

Which of his views on islam do you agree with?

batgoat

moonage wrote: »

I admire his bravery in sticking to his beliefs despite the persecution he has received from the state.

They want to shut him up and have repeatadly harrassed him and imprisoned him on flimsy grounds, with many spells of solitary confinement. Most people would have given in early on but TR has the courage of his convictions and doesn't let the bastards grind him down. He acknowledges that there's a good chance he will be killed in prison, yet he carries on.

Until TR I thought there was freedom of speech in the UK but the way he's being treated is more like Stalinist Russia in the 1930s.

As to his views on Islam, I largely agree with them and can understand how he came to them, given his upbringing in Luton.

I would say he's largely engaged in more harassing than he was victim to.

donkeykong5

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

How about you put it in your own words. I’m genuinely curious to know what his supporters think he represents.

The song by the guy from the group in Australia that supports him also speaks on my behalf. During the free Tommy March I attended in June there were loads of supporters singing it as well. Its brilliant.

donkeykong5

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

If I could share it on the thread I would. But I'm not that great on the internet . Maybe you could put it up. So everyone could see the true story of Tommy Robinson. !

I'm not rooting around the internet for something you can't be bothered to post.

You dont have to root. Just Google Steve mannix. Australia. Tommy Robinson song. It comes up immediately. I've shared it numerous times but dont know how to share it to boards.ie

rgossip30

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Couldn’t you say the same of anyone who breaks the law and doesn’t stop?

?

I doubt he is breaking any laws at present as his every move is being watched .I think someone like him exposing the asylum farce and government inaction here would be. no harm.

pjohnson

moonage wrote: »

He believes Islam is a bad ideology and is not compatible with liberal western democracy.

He believes that because the authorities don't want to be labeled racist, Muslims who commit wrongdoings aren't dealt with in the same way as non-Muslims.

He believes freedom of expression in the UK is being eroded and the UK is turning into a police state.

He also believes that brown pedo's are worse than white pedo's. But totally not racist.

moonage

pjohnson wrote: »

He also believes that brown pedo's are worse than white pedo's. But totally not racist.

The difference is that brown paedos (Muslims) were allowed to get away with their abuse for decades because the authorities didn't want to be seen as racist. This enabled the abuse to be carried out in a very highly organised, systematic manner on a massive scale and nothing was done about it.

White paedos, by contrast, were dealt with as the law required and were locked up.

ancapailldorcha

moonage wrote: »

The difference is that brown paedos (Muslims) were allowed to get away with their abuse for decades because the authorities didn't want to be seen as racist. This enabled the abuse to be carried out in a very highly organised, systematic manner on a massive scale and nothing was done about it..

Have you any proof of this?