Dohnjoe wrote: » Here's the lead engineer, not the building manager "Leslie E. Robertson, The lead structural engineer reflects on the rise and fall of the World Trade Center towers, spring 2002 wrote: "It appears that about 25,000 people safely exited the buildings, almost all of them from below the impact floors; almost everyone above the impact floors perished, either from the impact and fire or from the subsequent collapse. The structures of the buildings were heroic in some ways but less so in others. The buildings survived the impact of the Boeing 767 aircraft, an impact very much greater than had been contemplated in our design (a slow-flying Boeing 707 lost in the fog and seeking a landing field). Therefore, the robustness of the towers was exemplary. At the same time, the fires raging in the inner reaches of the buildings undermined their strength. In time, the unimaginable happened . . . wounded by the impact of the aircraft and bleeding from the fires, both of the towers of the World Trade Center collapsed."
Dohnjoe wrote: » I am. You aren't able to process what he is saying or the context That's exactly what happened, twice, in front of our very eyes, filmed from every angle Unless you can alternatively explain what happened with credible evidence, the part you constantly avoid Was the fire chief commander in on this conspiracy you have made up, yes or no? No waffle, no deflection, just yes or no
Cheerful Spring wrote: » You not listening to the man who actually oversaw the building of twin towers.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » You not listening to the man
You prefer to believe the US government fantasy office fires collapsed the twin towers at free fall speeds.
Larry Silverstein leased the twin towers and WTC7 2 months before 9/11 for 99 years. He leased the buildings from New York Authority. Then on 9/11 he, his daughter and son don't show up for work. This is evidence Silverstein was aware of something big was about to go down.
Dohnjoe wrote: » They were designed so they could potentially survive an accidental plane strike Not a fuel laden airliner flying into them purposefully at full speed - which is a very different thing This is called "context". A completely alien concept to you (along with "evidence", "critical thinking", "consensus" and other concepts you repeatedly struggle with) Watch this.. Was the fire chief commander involved in blowing up WTC 7? You are forced to say yes (because of your claim about Larry S) But you don't know how he was involved, and you definitely know you can't support it, so your mind will "speculate" on it and fill the sentence with waffle (now you'll have to abort that and ignore it) Observe
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Both Towers were built to absorb multiple plane hits at the same time.
In the truther world evaporated steel and pulverised concrete are not natural phenomenons.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Buildings go on fire all the time and don't collapse, what is your point?
Cheerful Spring wrote: » 9/11 debunkers ignore Vincent Demartini statement in the year 2000. He was the construction manager for both towers. He claimed commercial sized planes hitting the towers will have no impact or cause no damage to the main steel core.
Dohnjoe wrote: » He also said the phrase to the fire department commander. Apparently in truther-world firefighters also perform secret building demolition services (everything is so convenient) The term "pull" in the demolition industry generally refers to pulling down (smaller buildings) with wires, it's in the video I posted on WTC 6 in this thread Neither Larry S nor the fire commander are in the demolition industry and the building wasn't pulled down with wires
The Nal wrote: » No but it was by a big part of a building that was. Amusing still seeing the "pull it" quote being dished out as evidence after all these years.
The Nal wrote: » And it wasnt hit by an airliner traveling at 450mph carrying 38,000 litres of jet fuel.
King Mob wrote: » Apparently, the firefighter commander was the one who decided to pull WTC7, thus is the mastermind behind the attacks.
Dohnjoe wrote: » He also said the phrase to the fire department commander. Apparently in truther-world firefighters also perform secret building demolition services (everything is so convenient)
I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Yeah but *flips over trump card* WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » What would that have to do with 911? You do know that building was constructed in a totally different way using different materials right?
mikekerry wrote: » huge fire here mixed with chemicals. the building looks like it's still standinghttps://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/huge-fire-in-bangladesh-capital-kills-at-least-70-people-37838261.html
Ipso wrote: » And what had WTC to do withbthe Iraq war, wasn’t 911 a false flag to promote the project for a new american century? Wouldn’tnthe twin towers coming down not be enough and you wouldn’tnhave to plant explosives and be caught out by super troofers?
The Nal wrote: » Read this thread. People actually believe a plane did not hit the Pentagon (despite all the eye witnesses seeing one do so) and it was actually a missile and the real plane landed elsewhere and the passengers were either killed or put into some forced witness protection. lol
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Why do you find 9/11 conspiracies hilarious?
King Mob wrote: » But cheerful, you don't ask questions. You avoid them like the plague as you can only parrot what you read on crank websites.
The Nal wrote: » Nope, you are. Thats the irony. Theres far more money to be made as a conspiracy theorist. Hence why theres so many. Books, movies, websites all churning money. All targeted at people like you who believe stories with little or in most cases no evidence, then visit the websites, read the books and buy the movies. Making money for liars and lunatics. Conspiracies do exist of course. No ones questioning that. But not in this case. Whatever about JFK, I genuinely find 9/11 conspiracies hilarious. Last few pages have been comedy gold.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » It is only stupid to people who are not bright and don't think for themselves. Again conspiracies are real. They always have fools believing the official story. You are one of those people they call sheep.
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