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freshpopcorn

I saw this article there a while ago. If you Google it you get similar things up.
It basically people who belong they were born in the worn limbs and have them amputated.(Mainly illegally)
So , What do Boards think.of this?
Would you support a family member if they wanted to have it done,
Personally I'd have my concerns about this.
We always hearing let people do what they want with there own bodies/etc but I'd find it hard to go along with this. Well I wouldn't pay for it but I wouldn't really get involved.

https://apsari.com/people-becoming-disabled-choice-amputee-paraphilia-disorder-blind-handicapped-transabled?fbclid=IwAR2SYxu4YcgTF8wHXHu8ZwuHFY3hiQ5gSwlejahTDRW3v5-GTE6DzrXq6-U

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orourkeda1977

I was never a huge fan of people to begin with.

Sh1t like this does not help

Feisar

Dial Hard wrote: »

They're not romanticising anything, they're mentally ill.

Freshpopcorn as usual didn't do a very good job of framing his opening post. These aren't people who think it'd be a bit cool or trendy to be disabled, they're suffering from severe psychoses to the point where many of them will try to remove the "offending" limb themselves because they feel so strongly that it's not theirs.

But hey, it's AH, so rabble rabble, outrage, lefty snowflake something-or-other, etc.

Why are they defined as mentally ill though?

Uncharted

Feisar wrote: »

Why are they defined as mentally ill though?

Because Dial Hard said so,of course.....

....rabble rabble, rabble ,rabble........

:rolleyes:

Dial Hard

Feisar wrote: »

Why are they defined as mentally ill though?

Uncharted wrote:

Because Dial Hard said so

Yes, because I said so.

It's a recognised and diagnosed condition with plenty of literature behind it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/the-strange-cases-of-healthy-people-who-want-to-be-disabled-1.3757705?mode=amp

freshpopcorn

Dial Hard wrote: »

They're not romanticising anything, they're mentally ill.

Freshpopcorn as usual didn't do a very good job of framing his opening post. These aren't people who think it'd be a bit cool or trendy to be disabled, they're suffering from severe psychoses to the point where many of them will try to remove the "offending" limb themselves because they feel so strongly that it's not theirs.

But hey, it's AH, so rabble rabble, outrage, lefty snowflake something-or-other, etc.

Thanks for your continued feedback about how I'm not good enough!

Dial Hard

freshpopcorn wrote:

Thanks for your continued feedback about how I'm not good enough!

At the risk of falling afoul of the AH rule on not being a grammar Nazi, your post had some issues, in fairness. You also made it sound like this is something people consider in the same way they would getting a tattoo, or a nose job, or breast implants and it's really, really not.

Uncharted

Dial Hard wrote: »

Yes, because I said so.

It's a recognised and diagnosed condition with plenty of literature behind it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/the-strange-cases-of-healthy-people-who-want-to-be-disabled-1.3757705?mode=amp

You arrive in and make sweeping statements about the quality of posts/posters in AH....

Then begin to whimper when you're given a taste of it.

Get over yourself.

Snowflake :pac:

freshpopcorn

Dial Hard wrote: »

At the risk of falling afoul of the AH rule on not being a grammar Nazi, your post had some issues, in fairness. You also made it sound like this is something people consider in the same way they would getting a tattoo, or a nose job, or breast implants and it's really, really not.

I kept it short and to the point.
I started I saw an article and asked what others thought and provided a link.
I started I didn't really support it and asked others there opinion.
I don't believe in going over the top. I didn't make light of the matter.

Dial Hard

Uncharted wrote:

Then begin to whimper when you're given a taste of it.

Whimpered. Ok then.

y0ssar1an22

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Problems arise because a doctor would not have the legal right to carry out an amputation on a healthy limb.

What happens then is that they do it themselves. I remember one man on the doc literally sawed his own arm off.

Enablement is not advised in ALS. Instead it's treated through intense therapy and medication.

But they have the right to do it to a healthy dick?

Effects

Dial Hard wrote: »

They're not romanticising anything, they're mentally ill.

I'm not buying it. The lady that wants to be in a wheelchair, skis really fast, hoping to be in an accident. If that was actually the case, then at this stage, she would have had that accident

VeryTerry

freshpopcorn wrote: »

It's one way to get a parking permit I suppose!

It's like when Michael O'Leary bought a taxi plate so he could use the bus lanes. He's not working class and these lads aren't disabled.

Feisar

Effects wrote: »

I'm not buying it. The lady that wants to be in a wheelchair, skis really fast, hoping to be in an accident. If that was actually the case, then at this stage, she would have had that accident

I've been in two write off's in terms of car crashes. This may sound weird however they were very exciting. I walked away from both and no one else was hurt and they were accidents but damn the adrenaline dump!

Billy86

The transabled community is becoming more and more prominent day by day and even though they are small in number, as of now, transabled people are making news for coming off as rude and insulting to the ones who are actually born with a life-long disability. Jewel Shuping, a 30-year-old woman from North Carolina, purposely blinded herself with a help of a doctor by pouring drain cleaner in her eyes.

As someone with a blind sister, knowing the horrors and trauma she has/had of being aware she was missing out on so much that she will never in her whole life get to enjoy, this frankly disgusts me somewhat. Yeah it's her body, her choice and all that... but jesus this is frustrating, upsetting, and frankly something I really, really, really hope my own sister never has to hear about people doing.

Keyzer

Costs an arm and a leg to get this done...

jimgoose

Hmm. Usually intertwined with Transtarded, I believe.

suicide_circus

klaaaz wrote: »

That didn't take long for someone to try to connect this story to the LGllBT community.:mad:

ok I'll bite.

transabled people want to surgically remove a healthy limb in order to feel in themselves

a trangender m to f person may want to surgically invert a healthy penis to give it the appearance of a vagina

both are under the care of a psychiatrist.

there is some overlap, no?

ohnonotgmail

suicide_circus wrote: »

ok I'll bite.

transabled people want to surgically remove a healthy limb in order to feel in themselves

a trangender m to f person may want to surgically invert a healthy penis to give it the appearance of a vagina

both are under the care of a psychiatrist.

there is some overlap, no?

the only overlap is that both may be under the care of a psychiatrist/psychologist. that is where the overlap stops.

Ush1

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the only overlap is that both may be under the care of a psychiatrist/psychologist. that is where the overlap stops.

That's quite an overlap.

suicide_circus

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the only overlap is that both may be under the care of a psychiatrist/psychologist. that is where the overlap stops.

one is crazy and the other isnt

ohnonotgmail

Ush1 wrote: »

That's quite an overlap.

It really isn't.

DEFTLEFTHAND

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the only overlap is that both may be under the care of a psychiatrist/psychologist. that is where the overlap stops.

But they're both dysphorias no?

Ush1

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It really isn't.

It really is.

ohnonotgmail

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

But they're both dysphorias no?

yes. And?

seamus

"Transabled" :rolleyes:

Like it's a thing.

Any road, if someone feels the need to remove a limb or damage a part of their body, so strongly to the point that they're willing to try and DIY it, then I expect that unless you're going to lock them up, it makes sense to do it for them.

Not sure why that's so contentious.

DEFTLEFTHAND

seamus wrote: »

"Transabled" :rolleyes:

Like it's a thing.

Any road, if someone feels the need to remove a limb or damage a part of their body, so strongly to the point that they're willing to try and DIY it, then I expect that unless you're going to lock them up, it makes sense to do it for them.

Not sure why that's so contentious.

Should we kill them if they're suicidal? We can't enable mental illness.

This condition (Body Integrity Disorder) is treatable with therapy and medication.

Ush1

seamus wrote: »

"Transabled" :rolleyes:

Like it's a thing.

Any road, if someone feels the need to remove a limb or damage a part of their body, so strongly to the point that they're willing to try and DIY it, then I expect that unless you're going to lock them up, it makes sense to do it for them.

Not sure why that's so contentious.

Ethical reasons I'd imagine. Do you treat it as a mental condition which you entertain or an illness you try to fix?

We don't kill suicidal people.

seamus

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Should we kill them if they're suicidal? We can't enable mental illness.

"Enable mental illness", implies that if you just don't humour it, it will go away.

There are some people who will successfully commit suicide one way or another, because they're beyond our ability to help them at the moment. So we can either chain them up or let them go.

As uncomfortable as it is to say, we have to do what is most humane, not preserve life at all costs.

This condition is treatable with therapy and medication.

It is? Consistently? My understanding is that there is insufficient evidence for any particular treatment path, but anecdotally there are reports of patient for whom therapy and medication work, and others for whom surgical intervention worked.

We should do whatever results in the optimal outcome for the patient, not bind ourselves to some ideological idea that mental illness must always be resisted even at the expense of the patient's health.

One big issue in pop psychology is the belief that everyone is born (or at least formed) in a working state, and mental illness appears over time, caused by chemical imbalances, learned experiences or major trauma. As such, we believe we can "repair" everyone and bring them back to a normal state.

Some people are just born "broken" and may not be "fixable" except to "enable" their mental illness.

Bigbagofcans

Candie wrote: »

Absolutely is a thing, sites become hubs for people who reinforce whatever disordered thinking they share and it becomes normalized. Look at those 'pro-ana' sites* or the INCEL stuff and see how far you can go down the rabbit hole of crazy thinking when you get validation and support. Or religious radicalization, or whatever your favorite flavor of crazy is.

*pro anorexia

I was part of a pro-ana site a few years ago - very toxic but made you feel like it was normal. And to become a member & post on the forums you had to have a maximum BMI of 19.

Irish Guitarist

I wonder does John Wayne Bobbitt think that someone getting their penis cut off is an insult to him.