Havockk wrote: » Kate Hoey is in there, is she a trot too? You don't have a point with this, other than McCarthyesque hysteria.
super_furry wrote: » Yes, he's in now. Which - and stay with me here - shows the direction that Corbyn is leading the Labour party in.
super_furry wrote: » Funny, I don't remember Kate Hoey being readmitted after 34-years of being expelled. Corbyn's Labour is heading down the Trotsky route and the fact that Militant Tendancy's poster boy is suddenly back in the fold illustrates that perfectly.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » That’s a totally incorrect analysis of the situation. The reason labour is moving left is because the centre (the Overton window) is moving left, and to a certain extent right. The Tories are holding off their right flank with the their Brexiteers. Blairism is dead. Cameronism is dead.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Wait til Galloway comes back abd they expel Blair.
Tom Mann Centuria wrote: » Corbyn has fudged the Labour Brexit position because he has to, and I think he's done a reasonable job. When they are trying to appeal to Northern and Midland working class towns in England they have to acknowledge they were strongly Leave in nearly all constituencies.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » In fact labour can’t abandon their working class base, so they would always fudge Brexit.
Roger_007 wrote: » The Labour Party membership is moving further left. The voters are not, if anything, they are moving to the right and some to the extreme right. That's the problem.
ilkhanid wrote: » In other words, they can't act with Good Authority and make it plain to Labour voters the disaster that Breixit is going to be. So, fudge it is,so?
super_furry wrote: » I mean you joke about it, but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Galloway does come back in now.
listermint wrote: » What this thread has superbly demonstrated is the he almost trumpian cult like support Corbyn has managed to whip up. He's a god like figure that can do not wrong. Despite having failed to live up to any expectations that were made of him. Frankly his a sub par poor far left politician who just happened to be in the right place and the right time of austerity on working class areas. But all that faith all that effort he's done absolutely f all with it. He's still trailing a ruthless despicable Torie party of hapless miscontents. He will never lose a tiny portion of fanatics because just like trump the can't see his failings. The emperor truly is nudey. Love how threads like this rake them up where they can twist and turn their own comments several times over within two pages and always believe that's what the said on the first page. Good luck. He's drowning the party everyday he does nothing.
Folkstonian wrote: » I bring up antisemitism because it’s prevalence in labour - and the complete failure to eradicate it - were central to this group of MPs decision making process before leaving the party.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » That sort of image could be incredibly damaging for the party. Rhetoric like "cowards" and "traitors" does not belong in a respectable party of government.
marno21 wrote: » Calling Corbyn "sub par" is being extremely kind to him imo. He's been a special level of useless to have a poorer approval rating than the leader of the dumpster fire Government at present.
Deleted User wrote: » Hardly surprising they can't lay out specific examples very well when even this thread is ignoringe the two elephants in the room; Labour's growing reliance on actual anti-Semitic Muslims, and the Jewish population's extraordinary low thresholds for what it calls anti-Semitism. Since neither can be talked about publicly, people will talk around the topic. Best to focus on the Brexit side of things.
Gbear wrote: » Never mind a 2nd referendum. A Labour leader with balls and more than half a dozen brain cells would've been attacking the referendum as the illegitimate expression of classism and racism that it is and pushing towards cancelling Article 50 outright.
Gbear wrote: » Heaven forbid a politician actually shows some leadership and vision, and propose a solution that won't send the country down the toilet. Instead of hammering the Tories and Leave fanatics for their shady business ties and demagoguery, and the misinformation peddled arm in arm with propaganda outlets like Cambridge Analytica, and the total failure to attack the Leave side over their links to Russian Oligarchs, Corbyn has hidden behind the political expediency of a 4% margin in the referendum and continues to do so. What I would like to see from a functional opposition to the biggest embarrassment of a government in British history would be to show a contrast by displaying a bit of bloody patriotism in trying to save the country from this fascist cash grab and descent into oligarchy, but apparently the prize of being able to sweep up the remains of Britain and trying to glue it back together into a economic illiterate's fantasy is more appealing to Corbyn. Never mind a 2nd referendum. A Labour leader with balls and more than half a dozen brain cells would've been attacking the referendum as the illegitimate expression of classism and racism that it is and pushing towards cancelling Article 50 outright.
Hurrache wrote: » Latest pollinghttps://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1097637184235077633?s=19
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Corbyn.
MrMusician18 wrote: » Such a poll is rather meaningless, electors would have been responding with half a days worth of information, assuming it was done today. If it was not done today it means even less as anyone can project their beliefs onto the band of 7 even if they do not reflect their position. You would need to give it a few days at least for the news to permeate imo, for real polling. The rush to be first is damaging.
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