Dickie10 wrote: » got done last year with a smart small farmer beside me. this lad finshes about 50 cattle on small acreage and i used to think fair play to him, but i noticed how he would always be praising himself aboout the good job he does on them , now this is exactly the type of farmer that kills any sooperation betweeen farmers , he buys dear stores between 900 and 1200 and finshes them off grass and out of shed in winter, he does them for a local butcher and of course has a healthy off farm income so i dunno how much profit they are leaving him but you couldnt tell him anything like that, seems pure hobby farming and this guy is just the type to break ranks for an extra 5cent if he got it. anyway what annoyed me was last april he was looking for silage and came over to get pit silage , he had an open lorry ford transit builders type. i put in 3 very big shear grab fulls of blocks of silage not sure what weight it would have been but id say equivalent to two bales of silage i suppose, he came 4 times for this amount. never asked me what i wanted for this just said he would fix up at end of the month, all summer came and went in septemeber he came over and handed me €180. i thiought it was worth a good bit more but what could i say. i was annoyed it took so long to pay too when he was desperate to get them. have my mind made up never to have excess silage in april again, always lads coming scavenging that time of year. id rather put on more urea in february and let cattle out to grass
drive it wrote: » I see on done deal the price of straw and hay is comming down. Lads with full shed starting to panic ?
wrangler wrote: » I advertised a cattle trailer during the year on DONE DEAL, priced at €4000, I got a lot of phone calls the first night, but one in particular was a neighbour that did his best to bully me to drop the price telling me even that I shouldn't be selling a trailer without brakes but he'd 'take it off my hands' anyway I told him that I wasn't dropping the price the first evening. Next morning at 8am I got a phone call from a tipperary guy saying is that my dog looking out of her pen near the gate, I'd told what junction I lived near and he guessed this was my house, he bought the trailer and gave me a cheque, My neighbour phoned half an hour later to say he was coming to look at it........ telling him it was gone was very sweet
liosnagceann75 wrote: » Asked a neighbour for silage bales a few years ago and was turned down. Fast forward to New Years Day some time later when he stopped me on the road looking for assistance. 2 bullocks had fallen into a slatted tank and i used my loader to lift them out. He said if I ever needed anything to give him a shout. Asked him last Spring for silage and was turned down again. Needless to say i wont be lifting anymore animals out of tanks for him. I also had agreed to buy 51 silage bales lately be because i believed i was going to be short. When the time came for the contractor to draw them i had plenty of my own silage left and didn't need them. I kept my word and took them. Im new enough to farming and there are some **** out there who have no word
Bass Reeves wrote: » There used to be a sign in old electrical and furniture shops. A deposit secures any item. If you have dealt with lads a good bit it may not be necessary but for new customers or where a lad is taking a few grand of silage then it is a business requirement.
lab man wrote: » Totally agreed, but back here in Clare tis 80% sucklers so money is fair scarce may to August
Bass Reeves wrote: » Mould is always an issue with bales but only pre calving
Bass Reeves wrote: Its the same as any other business. If he wants them he buys them. Mould is always an issue with bales but only pre calving unless it s very serious. If a lad is buy as they are baled he takes them away there and then. If he expects you to store he takes the risk. Buyer has two choices buying out of the field he loads up and looks after or they are stored on your farm at his risk. He marks the bales and you stack them separate
lab man wrote: » How can u ask for money when bales are on the row in a field in july fella says I'll take 50 , 100 .. 70 I ask for money when bales are opened when loaded any bale with mould will not be loaded in winter. cause I've been that road, ah there was a few bits of mould on some baled which of 50 might be 2 bales total , selling bales here since late 70s my fathers time had guys come back in year 13 that were refused bales cause over not paying the total 10 yrs before the pen never lies
Welding Rod wrote: » Say that again.....
Never wrestle with pigs wrote: Whatever you do, don't even sell him a small square bale of hay again. People like that need a lesson every now and again. Hopefully he'll be short again.
wrangler wrote: If I sell something it's not sold till I get money, I tell every enquiry from done deal that nothing is held until the cheque is cleared. As you see here it's madness doing it any other way
TooOldBoots wrote: » Sold 100 bales of 1st cut silage last year, best of feeding, €35/bale. The young upstart rang yesterday reneging on the deal, gave me a load of guff about how silage wasn't making anything near what we agreed and that and that there's loads of grass everywhere now. I didn't bother arguing just told him grand job. I thought it was bad form, a deal is a deal and to me a handshake is a mans contract. I had to ring another customer I sold bales to last year and tell him what happened, wasn't on the phone 2 minutes when he told me he'd take the bales no question, said his cows were pumping milk last spring on the silage I sold him. We might get an early spring but thats no reason to burn lads, its not as if I am making a fortune out of the bales
TooOldBoots wrote: » Fair play to you for keeping to your deal. Its hard enough to get the balance of fodder right without going down the road of messing with lads No not a chance he'll get any. What was really annoying was he said he'd bring them by Christmas then not a word till now. I only decided to sell him some bales as he's not long at it plus I didn't want to be selling to just one man. As it turns out 1 good buyer is better than a dozen time wasters
Pidae.m wrote: » older by the day wrote: » That's a lesson for any young farmer. Be self reliant. I am always helping neighbours and relatives, but I do because, thank God I have the ability and health to do it. But don't be dependant on anyone 99.9% percent of people are good, you will recognise the w**kers after a while No man's an island...... except Aran :}
older by the day wrote: » That's a lesson for any young farmer. Be self reliant. I am always helping neighbours and relatives, but I do because, thank God I have the ability and health to do it. But don't be dependant on anyone 99.9% percent of people are good, you will recognise the w**kers after a while
Never wrestle with pigs wrote: » Whatever you do, don't even sell him a small square bale of hay again. People like that need a lesson every now and again. Hopefully he'll be short again.
