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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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[Deleted User]

ohnonotgmail wrote:

So you agree it can be said with the intention of forming an emotional connection.

****ing hell. I now realise you are trolling. How silly of me to be roped in.

GinAndBitter

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no, i have said his behaviour fits that description. If the uk police want to investigate that is up to them. I'm sure they would take a complaint from a foreign jurisdiction seriously.

You stated it was grooming you didn't say the behaviour fits the description, so you've climbed down a little from your previous opinion . Do you think he is a paedo a simple yes or no answer will suffice.

ohnonotgmail

GinAndBitter wrote: »

You stated it was grooming you didn't say the behaviour fits the description, so you've climbed down a little from your previous opinion . Do you think he is a paedo a simple yes or no answer will suffice.

Bored now.

GinAndBitter

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Bored now.

Yeah I was gonna suggest you have a little break.

ohnonotgmail

So any word on tommies little scam going on around his australian tour? The one he sold tickets for before getting a visa. A visa he has been refused. Doesnt seem to be any sign of refunds for those who paid. Where has the money gone?

GinAndBitter

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

So any word on tommies little scam going on around his australian tour? The one he sold tickets for before getting a visa. A visa he has been refused. Doesnt seem to be any sign of refunds for those who paid. Where has the money gone?

Link?

Grayson

Mutant z wrote: »

Criticising an ideology is perfectly reasonable imo i just don't understand the double standards of many on the left who are very quick to call out homophobia and sexism when it comes to white christians but remain remarkably silent about homophobia and sexism within islam which is far worse than anything ever from the west even at it's worse why the sudden silence when it comes to human right issues within islam.

They're not silent about homophobia and sexism when it's muslims doing it.

The difference is that left wingers don't only focus on muslims. You won't find a person in this thread who hasn't condemned human rights abuses which have been committed by muslims.

GinAndBitter

Grayson wrote: »

They're not silent about homophobia and sexism when it's muslims doing it.

The difference is that left wingers don't only focus on muslims. You won't find a person in this thread who hasn't condemned human rights abuses which have been committed by muslims.

Have you read the thread recently on the Covington controversy? I'd say 95% of the outrage was directed at a smirking teen rather than at the black Israelites condemning faggòts and saying they should be dead.

And surprise surprise the big story in the media was a smirking teen in a MAGA hat and not the blatant homophobia a few metres away.

DEFTLEFTHAND

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Have you read the thread recently on the Covington controversy? I'd say 95% of the outrage was directed at a smirking teen rather than at the black Israelites condemning faggand saying they should be dead.

The teen was a white male in a MAGA cap.

That's like the Devil incarnate to these people.

Odhinn

Mutant z wrote: »

Why drag up the past .........

You stated "He certainly conducts himself in a far more classy way than the likes of leftist twats such as Owen Jones".

How many convictions has Owen Jones?

Mutant z

Grayson wrote: »

They're not silent about homophobia and sexism when it's muslims doing it.

The difference is that left wingers don't only focus on muslims. You won't find a person in this thread who hasn't condemned human rights abuses which have been committed by muslims.

Well they sure are quick to play the islamophobic card whenever anyone tries to point out the obvious problems with islam which they try to defend at all costs.

ohnonotgmail

Odhinn wrote: »

You stated "He certainly conducts himself in a far more classy way than the likes of leftist twats such as Owen Jones".

How many convictions has Owen Jones?

well there was the violence, the financial and immigration frauds, the public order offences and the drugs offence. No wait, they are all tommys convictions.

GinAndBitter

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well there was the violence, the financial and immigration frauds, the public order offences and the drugs offence. No wait, they are all tommys convictions.

Any sign of that link I asked you for?

Grayson

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Have you read the thread recently on the Covington controversy? I'd say 95% of the outrage was directed at a smirking teen rather than at the black Israelites condemning faggòts and saying they should be dead.

And surprise surprise the big story in the media was a smirking teen in a MAGA hat and not the blatant homophobia a few metres away.

So someone says the left ignore muslims who are homophobic. I say they don't.

Your counter argument is a situation involving no muslims. Which involved a weird sect, which is really a subsect of a weird sect, of black israelites and a group of teens wearing MAGA hats.

Does that mean my counter to that can be about slavery in the 1800's in the US? Or how Boris Johnson lied about bendy bananas.

I'm just trying to see how completely unrelated my response can be because I have no idea how yours relates to people on the left criticising homophobia.

GinAndBitter

Grayson wrote: »

So someone says the left ignore muslims who are homophobic. I say they don't.

Your counter argument is a situation involving no muslims. Which involved a weird sect, which is really a subsect of a weird sect, of black israelites and a group of teens wearing MAGA hats.

Does that mean my counter to that can be about slavery in the 1800's in the US? Or how Boris Johnson lied about bendy bananas.

I'm just trying to see how completely unrelated my response can be because I have no idea how yours relates to people on the left criticising homophobia.

I have no idea about what you are talking about in regard to Boris Johnson. My point was the left ignoring homophobia it doesn't matter where the homophobia is coming from, what matters is it being ignored in favour of focusing on something very trivial. Eg: smirking kid wearing maga hat.

GinAndBitter

Grayson wrote: »

So someone says the left ignore muslims who are homophobic. I say they don't.

Your counter argument is a situation involving no muslims. Which involved a weird sect, which is really a subsect of a weird sect, of black israelites and a group of teens wearing MAGA hats.

Does that mean my counter to that can be about slavery in the 1800's in the US? Or how Boris Johnson lied about bendy bananas.

I'm just trying to see how completely unrelated my response can be because I have no idea how yours relates to people on the left criticising homophobia.

Question for you, you are person that seems to want proofs and citations for statements and allegations made on here, can i ask is it only people you don't agree with that you ask this of?

Mutant z

Odhinn wrote: »

You stated "He certainly conducts himself in a far more classy way than the likes of leftist twats such as Owen Jones".

How many convictions has Owen Jones?

Yes he has had his issues in the past which he's left long behind him and is now a law abiding citizen those who are left wing are not without past criminal convictions either but it doesn't make anything he says less merit. The fact that the state are so desperate to censor him must mean he has a reasonable point which those who have screwed up simply can't bear to take responsibility for so must shut those up who point out their huge mistakes.

ancapailldorcha

Mutant z wrote: »

those who are left wing are not without past criminal convictions either

Everyone on the left has a criminal conviction? Source please.

GinAndBitter

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Everyone on the left has a criminal conviction? Source please.

It seems sources aren't required in this thread.

ohnonotgmail

Mutant z wrote: »

Yes he has had his issues in the past which he's left long behind him and is now a law abiding citizen those who are left wing are not without past criminal convictions either but it doesn't make anything he says less merit. The fact that the state are so desperate to censor him must mean he has a reasonable point which those who have screwed up simply can't bear to take responsibility for so must shut those up who point out their huge mistakes.

he was only released from prison for his last conviction in 2014.

Mutant z

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Everyone on the left has a criminal conviction? Source please.

I never suggested they did I was merely saying criminal convictions can be on any side of the political divide please don't try to take what I say completely out of context to something i never said at all.

ancapailldorcha

Mutant z wrote: »

I never suggested they did I was merely saying criminal convictions can be on any side of the political divide please don't try to take what I say completely out of context to something i never said at all.

I quoted you exactly. Precision with language is important otherwise you just end up with incoherent babbling.

Grayson

Mutant z wrote: »

Well they sure are quick to play the islamophobic card whenever anyone tries to point out the obvious problems with islam which they try to defend at all costs.

No, they use it when people are islamaphobic.

I have no problem with people calling out places like saudi. I've even said it myself many times. Saudi is a horrendous place. I have no problem with people criticising homophobia or sexism.

I do have a problem when people criticise muslims in general. It's a hugely diverse religion. And it's members vary hugely in their devotion.

It's been very common on boards for people to say that muslims are significantly more likely to be paedophiles (They're not), that muslims want to invade (they're not invading), that muslims will outbreed us (they're not going to).

And they won't apply the same standards to muslims that they apply to others.

Which brings us back to Tommy/Stephen. Not a word out of him about any abusers unless they're muslims. The guys has filmed himself shouting Paki. The guy has been filmed pointing a muslim houses shouting that the inhabitants want to kill everyone. He founded the EDL.But apparently he really cares about abuse and it has nothing to do with muslims :rolleyes:

And apparently calling him or his supporters racist/islamophobes is inaccurate. Because the guy who says racist sh1t and founded racist groups is definitely not racist.

Grayson

Mutant z wrote: »

Yes he has had his issues in the past which he's left long behind him and is now a law abiding citizen those who are left wing are not without past criminal convictions either but it doesn't make anything he says less merit. The fact that the state are so desperate to censor him must mean he has a reasonable point which those who have screwed up simply can't bear to take responsibility for so must shut those up who point out their huge mistakes.

He was on the search for cocaine a few weeks ago.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Mutant z wrote: »

Yes he has had his issues in the past which he's left long behind him and is now a law abiding citizen those who are left wing are not without past criminal convictions either but it doesn't make anything he says less merit. The fact that the state are so desperate to censor him must mean he has a reasonable point which those who have screwed up simply can't bear to take responsibility for so must shut those up who point out their huge mistakes.

What specifically do you have against him?

GinAndBitter

Grayson wrote: »

He was on the search for cocaine a few weeks ago.

Shocking. Execute him now.

ohnonotgmail

Grayson wrote: »

He was on the search for cocaine a few weeks ago.

he was on video recently looking suspiciously like he had just taken some.

[Deleted User]

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

he was on video recently looking suspiciously like he had just taken some.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

GinAndBitter

[Deleted User] wrote: »

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Craggy Island news.

Grayson

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Shocking. Execute him now.

hey, I'm not the person who says he's law abiding.