GinAndBitter wrote: » So what you are saying is he is guilty of grooming a child?
Mutant z wrote: » Not all but a huge chunk certainly are but if they ever actually stopped and listened to his arguments instead of calling him every insult under the sun they may find he has a point about islam and what it entails but somehow speaking about it makes him the most hateful person on the planet i just don't get it.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » I'm in no position to pronounce the guilt or otherwise of anybody. I'm not a court of law. I am just recounting what happened publicly.
GinAndBitter wrote: » What happend publicly? Grooming was it?
ohnonotgmail wrote: So you are ok with grooming 15 year olds then?
ohnonotgmail wrote: how would you describe what he did?
ohnonotgmail wrote: I'm in no position to pronounce the guilt or otherwise of anybody. I'm not a court of law. I am just recounting what happened publicly.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » you've seen what happened publicly. make up your own mind.
GinAndBitter wrote: » You were the one that mentioned grooming, so I'll ask again who has been grooming? Do you not know what grooming means? I don't think you do.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » how else would you describe a 36 year old man trying to chat up an underage girl online? I'm struggling to think of a better term.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » I've listened to him. I've watched his videos which I'm willing to bet is more than you've done for anyone to the left of Trump. His arguments are crap. He's a bigoted neanderthal making bank from the American right and people who are somehow less evolved than himself.
Mutant z wrote: » That's your opinion which i don't share however and I've seen the arguments from many sides which Tommy comes off quite reasonable in relation to quite a few others ive seen yes he may not be perfect but who the he'll is and he cut ties with the EDL years ago so i don't see why that keeps being brought up, i don't see many others lining up to speak up about what's been going on do you.
GinAndBitter wrote: » So you don't know what the word grooming means, glad we've established that.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » we have established nothing, you have just stated something as FACT.
GinAndBitter wrote: » You are making a false accusation of grooming. Grooming: the action by a paedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an Internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offence.
Child grooming is befriending and establishing an emotional connection with a child, and sometimes the family, to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse
ohnonotgmail wrote: » telling a girl she is "fit" is befriending and establishing an emotional connection is it not?
GinAndBitter wrote: » So you know what his intentions were now also do you? Listen I know you hate him, that's fine. But drop the grooming accusation because that's not what that was and well you know it.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » so you think you know his intentions then?
GinAndBitter wrote: » I know the man isn't a paedophile. So do you.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » based on what, exactly?
GinAndBitter wrote: » Ok, you got me, I have no proof that TR isn't a paedophile. I also have no proof you aren't one either. Do you think Tommy commited a crime here? I'll assume you do seeing as you accused him of grooming.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » It certainly looks suspicious for a man who has associated with a number of convicted sex offenders.
Deleted User wrote: » No. It isn't.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » really? so what is the purpose of it then? You've never told a girl she was attractive with the intention of forming an emotional connection?
ohnonotgmail wrote: really? so what is the purpose of it then? You've never told a girl she was attractive with the intention of forming an emotional connection?
GinAndBitter wrote: » But is that what happened in this case?
Deleted User wrote: » I have. I have also told a girl she was attractive without the intention to form an emotional connection. Jesus wept.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » I think so. why else did he say it?
GinAndBitter wrote: » Oh you think so. So you "think" something and it is enough to accuse someone.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » I am giving my opinion. Is that not what a discussion forum is for? Am i not allowed have an opinion?
GinAndBitter wrote: » No you accused someone of grooming, that's not what a discussion forum is for. Why don't you contact Bedfordshire if you think a crime has been committed.
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