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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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ohnonotgmail

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

Luton 20 years ago 1 mosque

luton now 50 + moques

abu hamza ( guy with the hook ) was a hate preacher in these moques

there is a full background into this if you bother to check

the guy can't set foot in his hometown because of the muslims , such a peaceful non backwards religon

whatever about his past

what he is saying now is true about the extremists

FACT 95 % of the knife crime in the uk ( talking about murders of young teenagers ) is muslim gangs , they were not in the uk 20 years ago

grooming gangs were not there 20 years ago

wait till we are swamped with it , and believe me it will happen , will your opinion still be the same

Presumably you have a citation for your fact?

Eircom_Sucks

piplip87 wrote: »

People had genuine concerns about immigration but where called racist when they bought them up. SJWS and open border types shout down anybody with a different view, lables them racist, islamphobic etc.The media and politicians not wanting to be seen as racist follow suit.

People who are not racist but have genuine concerms regarding education needs, treatment of women or benefits have nowhere to turn in the mainstream political or media so where do they go ?

In steps Tommy a man with multiple convictions, he takes them genuine concerms and morphs them into an anti immigrant agenda, he uses the fear some may have and transforms it into hate. All while screaming he is been silenced.

Then comes the genius part. The collection bucket comes out. "They are silencing me", "they are going to kill me" "Facebook are close to disabling my account but if you donate by following the link you can keep recieving my videos".

All that been said if he wasn't appealing to the lowest common denominator and been quite racist in his ways he has shone a light on a few issues. This expose of the BBC could really be good. Judging by what he has leaked so far it could be quite embarrassing.

In fairness to him too the leak of his WhatsApp conversation is ridiculous too. Jaysus there's worse any group of lads what's apps.n

Luton 20 years ago 1 mosque

luton now 50 + moques

abu hamza ( guy with the hook ) was a hate preacher in these moques

there is a full background into this if you bother to check

the guy can't set foot in his hometown because of the muslims , such a peaceful non backwards religon

whatever about his past

what he is saying now is true about the extremists

FACT 95 % of the knife crime in the uk ( talking about murders of young teenagers ) is muslim gangs , they were not in the uk 20 years ago

grooming gangs were not there 20 years ago

wait till we are swamped with it , and believe me it will happen , will your opinion still be the same

ancapailldorcha

piplip87 wrote: »

People had genuine concerns about immigration but where called racist when they bought them up. SJWS and open border types shout down anybody with a different view, lables them racist, islamphobic etc.The media and politicians not wanting to be seen as racist follow suit.

Utter nonsense.

The media has been peddling Xenophobia and racism for decades. It's highly profitable.

ohnonotgmail

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Is that true?

that tommy has friends in the EDL that have been convicted of sexual abuse? Yes it is. It has been linked to numerous times already on this thread.

El_Duderino 09

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

He wasnt bothered about white christian sexual abusers that he knew personally so why would he care about ones he did not know?

Is that true?

piplip87

People had genuine concerns about immigration but where called racist when they bought them up. SJWS and open border types shout down anybody with a different view, lables them racist, islamphobic etc.The media and politicians not wanting to be seen as racist follow suit.

People who are not racist but have genuine concerms regarding education needs, treatment of women or benefits have nowhere to turn in the mainstream political or media so where do they go ?

In steps Tommy a man with multiple convictions, he takes them genuine concerms and morphs them into an anti immigrant agenda, he uses the fear some may have and transforms it into hate. All while screaming he is been silenced.

Then comes the genius part. The collection bucket comes out. "They are silencing me", "they are going to kill me" "Facebook are close to disabling my account but if you donate by following the link you can keep recieving my videos".

All that been said if he wasn't appealing to the lowest common denominator and been quite racist in his ways he has shone a light on a few issues. This expose of the BBC could really be good. Judging by what he has leaked so far it could be quite embarrassing.

In fairness to him too the leak of his WhatsApp conversation is ridiculous too. Jaysus there's worse any group of lads what's apps.n

ohnonotgmail

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Is that true? Why limit it to racism? There were recent revelations about sexual abuse in private schools in England.

Sexual abuse by white teachers and monks was covered up. Seems right up TR’s street but he wasn’t interested in that.

So he was exorcised about non white muslim sexual abusers, but wasn’t interested in white Christian sexual abusers. I wonder what’s the difference that means he was so interests in one and silent on the other.... I wonder.

He wasnt bothered about white christian sexual abusers that he knew personally so why would he care about ones he did not know?

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

The ones that link back to the Telegraph "article" on the "real" Tommy Robinson. It's basically just a hit piece that wouldn't be out of place on Vice or Buzzfeed.

so what in that article is untrue?

El_Duderino 09

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think reported cases of paedophelia carried out by white british people are not acted upon for fear of racism.

Is that true? Why limit it to racism? There were recent revelations about sexual abuse in private schools in England.

Sexual abuse by white teachers and monks was covered up. Seems right up TR’s street but he wasn’t interested in that.

So he was exorcised about non white muslim sexual abusers, but wasn’t interested in white Christian sexual abusers. I wonder what’s the difference that means he was so interests in one and silent on the other.... I wonder.

Odhinn

Deleted User wrote: »

Highlighting crime that was not being acted upon due to the police being afraid of being branded racist is not racism.

Being anti immigration is not racist.

Disagreeing with an ideology and highlighting the worrying parts of that ideology is not racism.

But joining the BNP, the EDL and going on about "pakis" is.

[Deleted User]

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what citations are tenous?

The ones that link back to the Telegraph "article" on the "real" Tommy Robinson. It's basically just a hit piece that wouldn't be out of place on Vice or Buzzfeed.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

Wow.

That's some site. Some of the citations are tenuous at best.

Perhaps read some interviews with the man himself or even some videos that were posted up a few pages ago for some balance.

what citations are tenous?

Eircom_Sucks

Mutant z wrote: »

Funny whenever you see him interviewing those who hate him they can never give a logical reason why they hate him just what they have heard from others.why not actually listen to what he says instead of being told what to think by the media because he really isn't the bogeyman they make him out to be.

personally i think he is a legend to be honest

he's no saint , but who is

any video's i've seen of him interviewing people , they haven't a clue what to say to him , except the press said this and that etc

he speaks facts and only one in uk who has the gonads to go after extremists

watch his skynews interview , he live streams all his interviews as they happen so his words can't be mixed or twisted

sky news basically cut and edited the interview to suit their agenda

same with the bbc

people here are afraid to speak out against the mass allowance of foreigners here from war torn countries because you will be called a racist

[Deleted User]

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

On their own they might not be racist. When he ignores similar acts by white people and gets all hit and bothered about crimes committed by non white people, then I think it takes conscious effort to not see it as being racially/religiously motivated.

I don't think reported cases of paedophelia carried out by white british people are not acted upon for fear of racism.

[Deleted User]

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Yeah tommy real is a great lad http://materiaislamica.com/index.php?title=Tommy_Robinson&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile

Citations are provided for all claims against tommy.

Wow.

That's some site. Some of the citations are tenuous at best.

Perhaps read some interviews with the man himself or even some videos that were posted up a few pages ago for some balance.

El_Duderino 09

Deleted User wrote: »

Highlighting crime that was not being acted upon due to the police being afraid of being branded racist is not racism.

Being anti immigration is not racist.

Disagreeing with an ideology and highlighting the worrying parts of that ideology is not racism.

On their own they might not be racist. When he ignores similar acts by white people and gets all hit and bothered about crimes committed by non white people, then I think it takes conscious effort to not see it as being racially/religiously motivated.

ohnonotgmail

Yeah tommy real is a great lad http://materiaislamica.com/index.php?title=Tommy_Robinson&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile

Citations are provided for all claims against tommy.

[Deleted User]

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote:

It's not just the sun article. Check my post history ton fund two or three more. And that's just the ones I found in a quick ten-minute search

I'll do that at lunch. Thanks

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In assuming you are referring to the recent Sun article.

I have said racist things, homophobic things and incredibly crude gallows humour to people in the past.

I wouldn't consider myself racist because I made jokes or said to things to my friends.

It's not just the sun article. Check my post history ton fund two or three more. And that's just the ones I found in a quick ten-minute search

[Deleted User]

El_Duderino 09 wrote:

I think it would take conscious effort to ignore his behaviour if you want to see no evidence of racism.

Highlighting crime that was not being acted upon due to the police being afraid of being branded racist is not racism.

Being anti immigration is not racist.

Disagreeing with an ideology and highlighting the worrying parts of that ideology is not racism.

El_Duderino 09

Deleted User wrote: »

ohnonotgmail wrote:

So you dont consider yourself racist but you do say racist things. Makes sense.

Yes. Yes it does.

I admit I have said tasteless things and will probably continue to do so in suitable company.

I've made Jimmy saville jokes too but I don't consider myself a paedophile apologist.

Mind blowing isn't it?

What if you made harmless race jokes. And then you went on a harmless journey to whip up anti immigrant sentiment. And then you went on a harmless journey to highlight terrible crimes by non-white people while showing zero interest in crimes committed by white people.

I think it would take conscious effort to ignore his behaviour if you want to see no evidence of racism.

Mutant z

Funny whenever you see him interviewing those who hate him they can never give a logical reason why they hate him just what they have heard from others.why not actually listen to what he says instead of being told what to think by the media because he really isn't the bogeyman they make him out to be.

mcmoustache

These days, you have to literally be gassing jews before people stop their "but i don't think that makes him racist" nonsense.

[Deleted User]

ohnonotgmail wrote:

So you dont consider yourself racist but you do say racist things. Makes sense.

Yes. Yes it does.

I admit I have said tasteless things and will probably continue to do so in suitable company.

I've made Jimmy saville jokes too but I don't consider myself a paedophile apologist.

Mind blowing isn't it?

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

In assuming you are referring to the recent Sun article.

I have said racist things, homophobic things and incredibly crude gallows humour to people in the past.

I wouldn't consider myself racist because I made jokes or said to things to my friends.

So you dont consider yourself racist but you do say racist things. Makes sense.

[Deleted User]

ohnonotgmail wrote:

So you dont think he is a racist, he just happens to say racist things.

In assuming you are referring to the recent Sun article.

I have said racist things, homophobic things and incredibly crude gallows humour to people in the past.

I wouldn't consider myself racist because I made jokes or said to things to my friends.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

I would obviously have a negative opinion of him.

So you dont think he is a racist, he just happens to say racist things.

[Deleted User]

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ok. And what would change if you found out he probably is racist?

I would obviously have a negative opinion of him.

El_Duderino 09

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think I would be classed as a 'fan' but I honestly do not think Tommy Robinson is a racist.

Ok. And what would change if you found out he probably is racist?

[Deleted User]

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Being racist isn’t a point against TR in his fan’s eyes. It’s part of his appeal. They might start off saying he’s not racist but that’s only to appease people who think racism is a bad thing.

Debating whether TR is racist should be a fairly short discussion. The interesting question to ask his followers is what difference it would make if he is racist. Would they change their opinion of him or stop following him. I suspect not but open to correction from any of his supporters.

I don't think I would be classed as a 'fan' but I honestly do not think Tommy Robinson is a racist.