AnnaSophia wrote: » https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/arts/music/ryan-adams-women-sex.html This isn’t good.
Ricosruffneck wrote: » You know who won't pull this kinda sh*t. John Mayer! Between Ryan and Justin Vernon I thought one of them was gonna be revealed. Usually those that are overly vocal about social issues generally have something going on themselves of a dark nature. But not my boy John Mayer!
Wooderson wrote: » Wtf
AnnaSophia wrote: » I think it’s such a well written and researched article because I don’t doubt it for one second. Absolutely gutted. The 14 year old girl stuff is just... horrendous.
Ricosruffneck wrote: » He killed her dream. Aside from hurting her in the present he's pretty much killed of a prospective future. 'for Ava, the idea that she would be objectified or have to sleep with people to get ahead “just totally put me off to the whole idea” of being a musician, she said. She never played another gig.' Just very sad that he managed/attempted to do this to a couple of people. There may be others whos stories haven't been heard. Stopped following him on social media before the release of his last album. Guy is angry and unhinged, didn't want to see his daily meltdowns as I wanted to remember 'heartbreaker' era Ryan.
AnnaSophia wrote: » Yeah it’s just too much for me to separate from the music now.
Ricosruffneck wrote: » You should check out the lyrics to Phoebe bridgers song 'Motion Sickness' , there's a paticular lyric that sticks out. Internet people are theorizing this is about Ryan.
...Motion Sickness revealed the precocity of her songwriting. The standout single from Stranger in the Alps, it has amassed more than half-a-million views on YouTube and is an exquisite evisceration of a former lover. “I faked it every time,” she sings, before landing another blow to the solar plexus: “And why do you sing with an English accent?/ I guess it’s too late to change it now.” The song, she tells me, is about the Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter Ryan Adams, whom she met in 2015. “A mutual friend in LA was like, ‘Ryan would like you’. He really was just trying to get me recording and trying to get Ryan to hear me, but Ryan was like, ‘Let me see a picture of her’.” Bridgers says that she and Adams “ended up hanging out all night and recording a song together called Killer. Then, a couple of weeks later, he was suddenly trying to hook up with me. I was super-down and had just broken up with my high-school boyfriend. We slept together on his 40th birthday and I’d just turned 20.” She wrote Motion Sickness after they broke up. What did he think of it? “We were back on good terms by then but after I sent him the song he didn’t talk to me for 24 hours. Then he sent me a sweet text saying ‘it’s a great song’,” she says. “Yes, interesting character…”
That one goes with the Me Too movement. I really didn’t want that song to be on the record. I didn’t want to give the person it’s about any kind of ammo against me. The Me Too movement has been really hard on me, personally, because it’s really painful to remember things that have happened to you—but I’m so grateful for it at the same time. Now there’s all this language, there’s all this support, when you just felt like you were so alone … People were like, ‘You just have to deal with it and move on.’ Which, yeah, you have to move on. You can’t live your life in pain like that. It’s nice to know there’s brave women out there and they’re telling their stories. I’m a pretty private person, but I think it’s important to have solidarity with people who have had experiences like myself.
whiskeyman wrote: » There's more high profile women he's been involved with - I wonder if more is to come out? I guess many musicians in power may dangle those opportunities to naive young artists, but the underage bit is the real bit that is likely to drive fans away. Either way, his asshole persona is fuelled further.He was my music idol back in the day so this is hard to take.
whiskeyman wrote: » There's more high profile women he's been involved with - I wonder if more is to come out? I guess many musicians in power may dangle those opportunities to naive young artists, but the underage bit is the real bit that is likely to drive fans away. Either way, his asshole persona is fuelled further. He was my music idol back in the day so this is hard to take.
Ricosruffneck wrote: » Username checks out. I see people are trying to offload tickets on Toutless now. Caught him in the last tour, to be honest if his new song 'colours' was any good i'd prob have bought tickets for this one. Thankfully for me the song was pretty bad.
In the texts, Adams questioned Ava repeatedly about her age, and sometimes she said she was older than she was. Though he did not seem convinced, their sexual conversations continued. “i would get in trouble if someone knew we talked like this,” Adams wrote to her in November 2014.
Basq wrote: » As I've said elsewhere.. if there's any good to come from this horrible HORRIBLE story.. it's that Phoebe Bridgers might get the recognition she deserves. Strangers In The Alps is an absolutely incredible debut album! And Better Oblivion Community Center, her side project with Conor Oberst, is mighty good too!
Wooderson wrote: » The record(s) could be pulled and the tour cancelled. He was spouting awful shyte on twitter in the past 72 hours about the shows also.
whiskeyman wrote: » He's on his own label though - so isn't it his call? Would some of the venues make a stand? Might there be a protest nearer the time if the story gathers traction?
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