GinAndBitter wrote: » Spent 3 hours watching them last night.
Odhinn wrote: » So you'll be able to summarise them easy enough.
GinAndBitter wrote: » If i wanted to break down 3 hours of videos I could. But I'm not going to. If you are interested in the content you will watch the videos.
mcmoustache wrote: » If you understood what the videos were about, you'd be well able to give a summary. If you watched them without really understanding their purpose and found that they made you feel good about nice Tommy, then that might leave you at a loss when asked for a summary.
Odhinn wrote: » I don't know what the content is (apart from the fact that its about yaxley lennon), hence my repeated requests for a summary.
Odhinn wrote: I don't know what the content is (apart from the fact that its about yaxley lennon), hence my repeated requests for a summary.
GinAndBitter wrote: » Would you like me to wipe your arse for you while I'm at it? You hate Robinson anyway why do you care?
Deleted User wrote: » Do you use Paul hewson for bono, Stefani Germanotta for Lady Gaga or Bruce Jenner for Kaitlyn? I find it bizarre that you insist on referring to someone who is best known by a different name as an insult.
GinAndBitter wrote: » You're all so very interested in the videos but not interested enough to click play.
mcmoustache wrote: » People tend to be reluctant to take three hours out of their day to watch some mystery videos. But don't take my word for it. I feel a sudden affliction of dumbness of a box of rocks and have forgotten how to express a coherent point via the written word. In lieu of that I suggest that you check out this video below. It will explain everything that I can't and hopefully you'll be more informed of the problems with argument-ad-youtubem by the end of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE1dZQ2hFE4
GinAndBitter wrote: » I didn't ask any of you to watch anything. People that are interested will watch, people that are not interested or don't have the time won't. Simple really. Let's leave it at that.
Odhinn wrote: » Soap boxing via you-tube isn't the done thing, so no, lets please have a summary of the videos if you would.
GinAndBitter wrote: » The videos have been deleted now. They are on YouTube If you want to view them.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Do you have any thoughts of your own to add to the conversation?
GinAndBitter wrote: » Not really, do you? Any word on Tommy going back to prison ?
Odhinn wrote: » No thanks, I'd want a good summary of their contents first. What are your views on Robinson/Yaxley lennon?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » The word hagiography springs to mind.
GinAndBitter wrote: » I admire his nationalism, as a nationalist myself. I don't believe that he is a racist. He has black friends, Muslim friends. His local football club Luton Town which he is a huge followers have a very multicultural fan base as the town itself is very multicultural. All the right wing football clubs in London loved an away day in Luton as it was a chance to fight the immigrants supporters and Luton hooligan firm (which is also extremely diverse). I try put myself in his position and question how i would react. I certainly would not want my home town to be populated with the amount of Muslims that are in Luton and I would do my best to stop it. I don't wanna walk down the street and see nothing but Muslims and that's what it's like in parts of Luton. I certainly wouldn't want that here. I'm not saying I take his word as a journalist as gospel, as much as i wouldn't take Sky News/BBC as gospel.
Odhinn wrote: » No thanks, I'd want a good summary of their contents first.
GinAndBitter wrote: » I admire his nationalism, as a nationalist myself.
GinAndBitter wrote: » I don't believe that he is a racist. He has black friends, Muslim friends. His local football club Luton Town which he is a huge followers have a very multicultural fan base as the town itself is very multicultural. All the right wing football clubs in London loved an away day in Luton as it was a chance to fight the immigrants supporters and Luton hooligan firm (which is also extremely diverse).
GinAndBitter wrote: » I try put myself in his position and question how i would react. I certainly would not want my home town to be populated with the amount of Muslims that are in Luton and I would do my best to stop it. I don't wanna walk down the street and see nothing but Muslims and that's what it's like in parts of Luton. I certainly wouldn't want that here. .
mcmoustache wrote: » I decided to watch the first of these videos in the last 5 minutes so that I can give everyone a summary. The first video starts out fairly OK. It's just Tommy feeding swans in a pond behind a council estate for the first few minutes. He discusses his love of swans and their beautiful, white plumage and shared memories of his father who used to catch the swans and take them home to give them a wash. After some reminiscing about how the estate used to feel like a community while the camera briefly cuts to a black businessman entering an office in New York, Tommy checks his waders and enters the pond. What happened next was difficult to interpret but after grabbing a swan to an almighty cacophony of honking with feathers flying everywhere, he opens the fly in his waders and proceeds to violently pull the swan into his crotch. What followed was 50 minutes of honking and feathers flying, all while Tommy struggles to keep the distressed swan by his crotch, only ending with a shot of two community police officers approaching and Tommy running back into the flats. I'm not sure what the point of the film was, to be honest. I'm not a fan of Tommy's and I don't think that the 50 or so minutes of him trying to calm a clearly distressed swan in his crotch won me over. I'm not one to kink-shame but that swan wasn't having fun I felt that this crossed a line and I feel a bit dirty having watched it. I might check out the other two videos later after I get some counselling and regain my mental fortitude.
Odhinn wrote: » I'm a nationalist, Sinn Fein Voter (at any given opportunity) for over 30 years, and despise him and his ilk. His language and actions (joining the BNP, founding the EDL etc) would undermine any notion that he is non-racist/islamophobic). I live adjacent to an area in Dublin where there is a large muslim population a few halal shops and a mosque. It bothers me not in the slightest.
mcmoustache wrote: » I decided to watch the first of these videos in the last 5 minutes so that I can give everyone a summary. The first video starts out fairly OK. It's just Tommy feeding swans in a pond behind a council estate for the first few minutes. He discusses his love of swans and their beautiful, white plumage and shared memories of his father who used to catch the swans and take them home to give them a wash. ........
professore wrote: » Problem is the people in the UK who are supposed to keep law and order have a hands off approach to Islamic extremists. So it's no surprise groups like this form. Also why he very quickly left the BNP as a teenager when he realised they only admitted white English people.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » who was doing the honking?
ricero wrote: » I saw today online that bbc panorama tried to do a stitch up job on Tommy for a new investigation documentary but Tommy had his own secret camera men and will reveal the truth outside bbc Manchester later this month. John Sweeney and some of the producers seem very worried in a video clip I saw of Tommy revealing his hidden video clips. It's disgusting the fake news culture which is now embedded in established media. Love or hate Tommy it's scary to see this.
GinAndBitter wrote: » Sorry i stopped reading after I seen Sinn Fein and nationalist in the same sentence.