Shedite27 wrote: » Do/would many use it to transfer between transport tho? It's moving the bus station further from the city for what benefit? The few who transfer? Saving on utilities? Doesn't seem worth it. It's only a 7/8 min walk anyway.
cgcsb wrote: » with the bus station gone, it'd be a good site for highrise. The northside of the site is at the quay so it'd be casting a shadow onto the river only, nobody can complaining that they are being overshadowed.
Rhys Essien wrote: » City centre skyscraper news coming very soon. Stay tuned.
namloc1980 wrote: » The argument against it ranges from, it's too much of a "trek" to "it's only a 7/8 min walk anyway".
namloc1980 wrote: » But what about the vistas????
who_me wrote: » That's... an odd point to make. If a 7/8 minute walk from the bus station to the train station is nothing to complain about, then a 7/8 minute walk from the train station to the bus station is equally nothing to complain about. (In which case you'd pick the lower cost option and leave the bus station where it is.) Personally I think it doesn't have to be a big either-or decision. As it stands, I'm not 100% certain there's enough train traffic throughput to justify moving all city centre routes to a train station 'nexus'. Just add more routes which stop at the train station as and when the traffic and demand is there. Most routes will still be stopping at either the bus station or on Patrick St. - so there's no need to have city centre shoppers walk to the train station either.
who_me wrote: » Port Peninsula? (i.e. the Port of Cork tower?) Prism? Something new? Don't leave us hanging...
WoolyJumper wrote: » If Cork does get some kind of Tram or BRT system that was connected to the train station and running through the city then it would definitely make sense to have the bus station located there. Dublin's Busaras isn't exactly central either but you can just hop on the luas to get to the city centre if you don't feel like walking the 10 mins. Even if Cork didn't get some kind of tram system there will always be buses leaving from the bus station heading to the city centre if the walk is too much...but honestly it really isnt that much of a walk
SleetAndSnow wrote: » I can't see that ever going ahead tbh. It will just be objection after objection. Some 'artist' wants it to be a bloody museum. Considering how much flack the Prism is getting, this has no chance. I am interested in what the announcement is though. Any more info?
marno21 wrote: » Those buildings would look so much better rejuvenated as part of this scheme. And the 40 storey would be a landmark like the current Port of Cork sign at the entrance to Cork City. Such a centrally located site should not be wasted on its current use. It's time that these people were overruled for once and for all, the city is not benefitting from that sort of NIMBYism. The objection by the Green Party to the building is just comical though. I was under the impression that they encouraged sustainable dense development. Sure why not spread the planned uses of the building around the N40 and get people to drive there while we're at it.
Rhys Essien wrote: » The story is that the developers for said projects are flying in next week so hopefully very good news is on the horizon.
rounders wrote: » I noticed they have moved their Cork Office. I thought they used to have the port of cork buildings as their head quarters where as now they have Crosses Green
Rhys Essien wrote: » rounders wrote: » I noticed they have moved their Cork Office. I thought they used to have the port of cork buildings as their head quarters where as now they have Crosses Green I just had a look at their website and noticed that. I also noticed that Port Peninsula has disappeared from their ‘Upcoming Projects’.
Rhys Essien wrote: » I just had a look at their website and noticed that. I also noticed that Port Peninsula has disappeared from their ‘Upcoming Projects’.
SleetAndSnow wrote: » Rhys Essien wrote: » I just had a look at their website and noticed that. I also noticed that Port Peninsula has disappeared from their ‘Upcoming Projects’. Was it ever on there? I only ever saw it here alongside the Prism. https://alubuild.net/projects/
rounders wrote: » I remember commenting either on this forum or another about the name they used for the project on their website so was definitely up there at some stage!
marno21 wrote: » Website for one of the companies involved seems to indicate the Docklands tower, referred to as "Port Peninsula" will be 47 stories.https://alubuild.net/projects/#PortPeninsula
snotboogie wrote: » This is way behind where I thought it was: “1st February 2019: We understand a main contractor has been identified, however contracts have yet to be signed on the construction of a new Student Accommodation and ancillary student support facilities at Victoria Cross, Cork for UCC. ”https://twitter.com/cisireland/status/1091364004545613824?s=21
SleetAndSnow wrote: » Was it ever on there? I only ever saw it here alongside the Prism. https://alubuild.net/projects/
namloc1980 wrote: » Nobody is suggesting moving all city centre routes to the train station. That would be stupid. Best practice would be to have a transport hub as a terminus and for onward connections. As it happens quite a few people do use the existing limited connection at Kent as it is in the form of the 205. Can't imagine there are too many other countries where people would argue against creating a multi-modal transport hub yet here we are.
who_me wrote: » Cool. I'm all for expanded routes to/from/including the station. I'm actually not entirely sure how much really is needed at the train station. For most services you can either buy getting on the bus or use a Leap card. (There are rail ticket machines in the underpass 'lobby', bus ticketing machines could be added there too if necessary?). There's limited outdoor sheltered area for those waiting for buses (ok for summer, not ideal at this time of year) and they might need a few additional bus spots. If the bus station were to be gotten rid of though, it would be more problematic. The Expressway buses typically take longer to load/unload (less frequent, so tend to be more full; plus many use the baggage areas underneath) so they really do require an off-street area. If you were to move those to the train station area, you'd need quite a bit more space, I reckon. Having a free shuttle bus between the train station and Patrick St. might help a lot too. It's such a short trip, and with no intermediate stops or fare-taking it could run every 10 minutes. That would take away most of the potential concerns.
Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: » Would be handy to have a ticket machine for buses at the train station. Currently, you can actually purchase and topup Leap cards at the train ticket machines which isn't advertised at all.
WoolyJumper wrote: » Dublin's Busaras isn't exactly central either but you can just hop on the luas to get to the city centre if you don't feel like walking the 10 mins.
