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Formula 1 2019 - General Discussion Thread

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Official 2019 Entry List is OUT!

44 Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes-AMG Petronas Motorsport)
77 Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes-AMG Petronas Motorsport)
5 Sebastian Vettel (Scuderia Ferrari Mission Minnnow)
16 Charles Leclerc (Scuderia Ferrari Mission Minnnow)
33 Max Verstappen (Aston Martin Red Bull Racing)
10 Pierre Gasly (Aston Martin Red Bull Racing)
3 Daniel Ricciardo (Renault F1 Team)
27 Nico Hulkenberg (Renault F1 Team)
8 Romain Grosjean (Rich Energy Haas F1 Team)
20 Kevin Magnussen (Rich Energy Haas F1 Team)
55 Carlos Sainz Jnr (McLaren F1 Team)
4 Lando Norris (McLaren F1 Team)
11 Sergio Perez (Racing Point F1 Team)
18 Lance Stroll (Racing Point F1 Team)
7 Kimi Raikkonen (Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team)
99 Antonio Giovinazzi (Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team)
26 Daniil Kvyat (Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda)
TBA Alexander Albon (Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda)
63 George Russell (Williams Racing)
88 Robert Kubica (Williams Racing)

Only Albon needs to confirm his Race Number, Force India IS gone replaced by just Racing Point. Haas F1 Team is now Rich Energy Haas F1 Team

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recyclebin

Apparently it is the new car, well a graphical representation of it.

http://www.pitpass.com/63856/Haas-reveals-2019-livery-and-car

mickdw

I was 100 percent certain the rich energy Craic was a scam but surely they couldn't have got this far without coming up with huge funds

Jordan 199

Haas-F1-VF-19-Formel-1-2019-fotoshowBig-c45102b3-1422443.jpg

Charlie-Bravo

Nice front wing - I reckon that the drinks company will run out of sponsorship money by the time the European races come about. I can't imagine they are in the same league as monster/red bull or any of those and Rich energy are chancing their arm.

I'm still wondering where the drink is available? 90 million cans made, but where is it sold?!!

http://f1i.com/news/329161-rich-energy-boss-answers-risible-and-nonsense-rumors.html

Gotta love this quote: "At the end of the day when the tide goes out we see who is swimming naked, don’t we?

We'll sure find out after 4-5 races.

Frank Bullitt

Good to see Lotus back on the grid...wait a minute.

Frank Bullitt

recyclebin wrote: »

Apparently it is the new car, well a graphical representation of it.

http://www.pitpass.com/63856/Haas-reveals-2019-livery-and-car

Its the old car with the new front wing.

EDIT - So the render is of the new car, the one at the presentation was the old car.

pyramuid man

Hartley to race for SMP in WEC this year.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/sports-cars/brendon-hartley-returns-wec-smp-racing

Isn't Sergey Sirotkin doing the same? Between Button and Hartley, they will have a strong team for Le Mans.

Frank Bullitt

pyramuid man wrote: »

Hartley to race for SMP in WEC this year.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/sports-cars/brendon-hartley-returns-wec-smp-racing

Isn't Sergey Sirotkin doing the same? Between Button and Hartley, they will have a strong team for Le Mans.

Hartley will be busy this year with that and testing for Ferrari.

Joeseph Balls

Gintonious wrote: »

Good to see Lotus back on the grid...wait a minute.

Said the very same thing.
Starting to get excited now.
Time to start planning another trip

ayux4rj6zql2ph

The Haas is stunning, reminds me of the 1998 Arrows

Frank Bullitt

https://twitter.com/glenn_autosport/status/1093578347454627842

This was also what came to mind. Can't see the livery staying the same, the gold was dire to see on the TV.

HighLine

I saw Hamilton had the following on his Instagram stories recently... couldn't be real could it?

https://twitter.com/jeffjthompson/status/1091675792042541056

Inviere

^^ No they're model kits, I seen that on Reddit a few days back. The scale isn't the same on both of them.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Hamilton must want to buy the MP4-22, i'd imagine Ron Dennis retains ownership of the real thing and wouldn't sell it.

donspeekinglesh

pyramuid man wrote: »

Hartley to race for SMP in WEC this year.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/sports-cars/brendon-hartley-returns-wec-smp-racing

Isn't Sergey Sirotkin doing the same? Between Button and Hartley, they will have a strong team for Le Mans.

Not doing Le Mans for them, just covering the races Button is missing due to Super GT. But he's still a Porsche driver, so doing FE work with them too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtlvWgjhLZO/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=178o186n60vhf

Harika

mickdw wrote: »

I was 100 percent certain the rich energy Craic was a scam but surely they couldn't have got this far without coming up with huge funds

It's paid in installments over the year. They might have backers that are lured into being the new red bull. With the pr from the sponsorship they might try to start that up and earn money quicker than the checks for Haas have to be paid, or their backers will throw in more cash to make it to the "breakthrough". Would not be the first time in F1.
Also they get free vip passes that are worth good money to juggle around.

recyclebin

That can't be the final livery. You can barely see any of the branding.

skipper_G

mickdw wrote: »

I was 100 percent certain the rich energy Craic was a scam but surely they couldn't have got this far without coming up with huge funds

I fully believe everything that Mr. Spoofer Storey says. I'm off to my local shop to purchase a can.... No luck
The man in the shop said "ye wha? Never heard of dat one bud".

I can't take him or his makey uppey energy drink seriously, but at the same time I can't see Gene Haas falling for the snakeoil sales pitch. The rumoured connection to Sullivan and Gold must have materialised

muckwarrior

skipper_G wrote: »

I fully believe everything that Mr. Spoofer Storey says. I'm off to my local shop to purchase a can.... No luck
The man in the shop said "ye wha? Never heard of dat one bud".

Red Bull sponsored Sauber for years before I ever even knew what it was, never mind seen it in shops. I've no idea whether rich energy are legit or not, but just because you don't see it in your local shop doesn't mean it isn't.

Robbo

muckwarrior wrote: »

Red Bull sponsored Sauber for years before I ever even knew what it was, never mind seen it in shops. I've no idea whether rich energy are legit or not, but just because you don't see it in your local shop doesn't mean it isn't.

It gets better, Berger told a story on a recent podcast where Marko came up to him offering sponsorship before he even had a company, let alone a drink.

skipper_G

muckwarrior wrote: »

Red Bull sponsored Sauber for years before I ever even knew what it was, never mind seen it in shops. I've no idea whether rich energy are legit or not, but just because you don't see it in your local shop doesn't mean it isn't.

They're trying to replicate the Red Bull business model of promotion, it might work and it might not. If it does work, then fair play. But I still think he's full of ****

This was an interesting read about some of the energy drink brands that have come and gone in F1 through the years
http://www.f1colours.com/articles/energy-drinks-and-f1-a-chequered-history/

Frank Bullitt

muckwarrior wrote: »

Red Bull sponsored Sauber for years before I ever even knew what it was, never mind seen it in shops. I've no idea whether rich energy are legit or not, but just because you don't see it in your local shop doesn't mean it isn't.

Weren't Red Bull already fairly established in Asia before they landed in Europe? It was founded in the 80's after Mateschitz got the idea from a Thai drink.

It gets better, Berger told a story on a recent podcast where Marko came up to him offering sponsorship before he even had a company, let alone a drink.

Marko? He has nothing to do with the RB drink

flazio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au6kwvREWPY

Harika

Gintonious wrote: »

muckwarrior wrote: »

Red Bull sponsored Sauber for years before I ever even knew what it was, never mind seen it in shops. I've no idea whether rich energy are legit or not, but just because you don't see it in your local shop doesn't mean it isn't.

Weren't Red Bull already fairly established in Asia before they landed in Europe? It was founded in the 80's after Mateschitz got the idea from a Thai drink.

It gets better, Berger told a story on a recent podcast where Marko came up to him offering sponsorship before he even had a company, let alone a drink.

Marko? He has nothing to do with the RB drink

Mateschitz was a tooth paste salesman and brought the recipe back from Thailand. In the 80s it was first established in Austria and Marko who is best friend to him was already helping him here to bring it to F1. Berger is seen posing with a can when still at mclaren Honda. Mid 90s in Austria there were more than 100 brands like red bull available. Only few survived the 90s like power horse or dark horse.
Different to rich energy you could easily buy those everywhere. If I would be them I would show pallets of my products send wherever.

HighLine

A little off-topic but this week's episode of The Grand Tour has a brilliant piece on Jim Clark and of course features one of the best looking F1 cars ever made.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/phillip-morris-under-fire-for-new-logo-on-ferrari-f1-uniforms-20190207-p50wa2.html

Ferraris new sponsor, Mission Winnow, could be banned from Australia, its under investigation down there for being similar to the Marlboro logo (Marlboro own Mission Winnow).

Not exactly sure what the hell MW is really.

Cool_CM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/141369/doubting-haas-backer-like-denying-moon-landings

Not sure that it's the same

PopePalpatine

Gintonious wrote: »

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/phillip-morris-under-fire-for-new-logo-on-ferrari-f1-uniforms-20190207-p50wa2.html

Ferraris new sponsor, Mission Winnow, could be banned from Australia, its under investigation down there for being similar to the Marlboro logo (Marlboro own Mission Winnow).

Not exactly sure what the hell MW is really.

Ever heard of "wokewashing"?

mickdw

I tried to buy a case of rich energy on their site.
No luck. Don't ship to Ireland or anywhere bar UK it would appear.

Harika

Anyone working at a bar and with their recent success want to grab something for their F1 opening party?
If it is only UK, then I wonder even more as I might have suspected it to be sold somewhere in the middle east.