StepMama wrote: » Anyone?
Payton wrote: » Hi from what I know E80 per week is the norm as is paying half of school/activities. Regardless if she has more children your partner has a moral and legal obligation to pay for his child and by reducing that down to 50 is only putting fuel on the fire, especially if there is a court order in place. Children are expensive and wait until they get older!! I'm sure the loans he is paying off wont be there for ever but his child will be. Can you ask the loan companies to reduce the payments over a longer term. As for the clothes dont send anymore down. The clothes you buy keep them at your house so when the child visits you they can wear them, wash the clothes they were sent in and put them on going home, no more resentment.
ChrissieH wrote: » Hi StepMama, I'm new to this so I've just seen your thread but am in a slightly similar situation - my husband has a 10yo child with a woman he had a 1-night stand with, so they were never together and never had any sort of formal agreement until a couple of years ago when she sent him a summons out of the blue. Up til then, he'd paid various amounts of weekly maintenance as agreed by them over the years, and she would ask him for 50% towards all the extra stuff, which he just had to trust was legitimate (they live far away from us so he didn't know if anything to do with specific school / hobby expenses were accurate) When they went to court, he'd been paying €50 a week for a few years, down from a previously higher amount (this was at her request because she wanted to qualify for social welfare payments) she was looking for a minimum of €100 a week. At the time, he was on a zero-hour contract so there were weeks when he literally made no money at all, and weeks where he'd bring home €500, but those weeks were rare. We had to fill out a statement of means, we also got to see hers (this was all done via solicitor) and saw that she earned more than him and also got state assistance, as well as the maintenance he paid but in court, the judge wasn't one bit interested in any of this, he didn't even look at what my husband earned. Thankfully he didn't award her €100 a week, because we just couldn't afford it, but he settled halfway by awarding her €75 a week, and stated that that money was to cover everything, so it actually did work out financially better for us in that the chid's mother now can't ask my husband for extra money to cover things that we have no proof of ever happening. (I know there will be people saying that I shouldn't say "it worked out better for us" etc, that his child is his responsibility - I know all that, he never tried to get out of his responsibility, the fact of the matter is that unfortunately there are women out there who use their children as pawns and with my husband, from the time his daughter was a baby up til this court case, he was constantly told "if you don't give me this money, you can forget about seeing her this weekend" so I don't need to hear it!)
redeye101 wrote: » Hi ChrissieH, Is there a mechanism to view the other persons’ ‘Statement of Means’ by application to court or was this by agreement by the solicitors beforehand? Thanks!
ELM327 wrote: » This happens as normal in a family court hearing, any documents sent to the court for consideration must be shared with the other side and their solicitor (usually via their solicitor) in advance of the hearing. It happened in my case (partner has 2 children from prior relationship) that documents that were presented in court that had not been shared with us beforehand, were not considered by the judge.
bcklschaps wrote: » In the typical case of mother having custody and father getting kicked out, €50 a week per child in maintenance plus incidentals was the norm up until recently. Might have changed since to €60 or maybe even if €75. Where father has custody (probably <1% of the time, I'd guess) I'm not sure how how it works. Undoubtedly the mother will pay a lot less than the father would be asked to pay. Equality me arse. My advice, have your statement of means done up and go to court, you'll unlikely work out any worse off anyway.
Ken. wrote: » The only father I know that got custody of the kids(4 girls) above the mother gets €25 per week per child from the mother. She is in a low paying job so that's probably the reason for the low amount.
Confusedjon04s wrote: » My ex husband has a full time job earning roughly €60,000 a year and looking to pay €35 maintenance a week for our son. Any advice very welcome as you can imagine my struggle
snor wrote: » Does anyone know what maintenance would typically be awarded If someone is in receipt of social welfare and has minimal living Expense (living with family). Thank you.
corks finest wrote: » That's bloody scandalous if it was me now(I'm male BTW) Get all your bills in order ref your son. Receipts for heating Food Clothing Travel School (Inc uniform, books etc) Your car insurance, maintenance and tax etc) Rent or mortgage Get up in front of a judge with these and keep going until you get a decent weekly sum, e35 doesen't rear a child these days
ELM327 wrote: » It's not supposed to rear a child, it's supposed to pay 50% of the cost of the child. Certainly not things like funding the ex partner's mortgage.
corks finest wrote: » It's the child's home whether rented or mortgage, obviously I didn't mean pay the whole thing but certainly a chunk towards it, it's his child and where do you think she's rearing him in the side of the road? Child support, at its simplest, is meant to help with the “normal” expenses associated with raising a child. These normal expenses include food, shelter, transportation, clothing, and certain educational costs.
YellowLead wrote: » We don’t know exactly what confused’s exact situation is - if the child is living with both parents half and half of the time for example.
HotMama89 wrote: » I get 50 a week for one child and half of school costs nothing towards anything else father has custody one day a week has a full time job and no outgoings/car lives at home. This was an informal agreement and I could probably get more if I did go to court but I have a good job so can support myself so it’s just not worth the hassle but 50euro comes nowhere near the 50% of the costs of raising a child. I’d probably spend that alone feeding them for the 6 days I have them. I think the 75 your paying with half of all costs is very reasonable.
Meeoow wrote: » Completely agree. People here saying that courts are skewed towards mothers is complete rubbish. Mothers mostly have custody of the children, and the pittance of maintenance and children's allowance doesn't nearly cover half the costs of children. I asked my ex to share custody of our child and share costs equally. He said no, why should he? I always worked full time and never got any social welfare, but I would have absolutely spent much more than half on our child than he ever contributed. She is over 18 now, but at college, and I asked him to help with her costs. He handed her an envelope with 250 euro in it. I am paying 5000 on her accommodation annually. I am happy to help her, but it really pisses me off to hear people say that courts favour mothers, as if we go out partying with the maintenance money. Chance would be a fine thing, a fine thing indeed.
corks finest wrote: » Courts do favour the women ref property never yet heard of a man getting the house have you? Also I paid her college fees prior to our break up, she was earning as a beautician etc yet never offered to even give him holiday money when him and I went on holidays It's taken 15 or 16 years for us to agree on bills shared but it's working