jam_mac_jam wrote: » That must be a new record. Ffs
Necro wrote: » Ah we both know that realistically all the services should simply just be combined into a fee by the local council ala England (property tax, waste, water, etc). But we don't have that system here so we need some form of deterrent to the filthy pigs who don't dispose of their waste legally. I'm not going to worry about those people who won't get receipts or sign up for a company, it'll shock them fairly quickly into doing so.
Dravokivich wrote: » It wasn't that long ago that the council's did it here.
Necro wrote: » I don't really know why they moved away from that system tbh. As LirW says, these things need to be really regulated or you get the issues like what's happening all over the country at the moment.
corner of hells wrote: » One of waste collection showers made a pretty good attempt at trying to intimidate my elderly mother into continuing with a collection contract while she was living in a nursing home. I eventually found out and pointed out that she wasn't a resident in her home. One night I was in her home and two pox bottles turned up at the door to "check" up on who was living in her home. Even me explaining to them where she was didn't satisfy the pricks . A week letter a bin calendar and card arrived with details of her nee account was posted to her house. So , then I rang them... explaining again that was a resident in a nursing home. They rang back asking to speak to my father, I explained he was dead. They rang back , between August and Christmas maybe 15 times. They rang the night she died , they rang while I was buying a suit for the funeral. Always the same conversation... Can we talk about the bin collections ... My reply " the house is empty , my father is frad and eventually both my parents are both dead ... I'm waiting , just waiting for the next call.
Johnny Red Cab wrote: » Ireland really has become a police state.
whisky_galore wrote: » You wouldn't know a police state if it bit you on the hole.
Dravokivich wrote: » Eh... theres very little going on to manage those services. It's been shown on RTE prime time either last year, or the year before that a lot of the improper waste management, is because of the minimal regulatory enforcement in place. This thing being pushed now, is just barking up the wrong tree.
Feisar wrote: » Why did that change do you know?
freshpopcorn wrote: » I'd like to see all these bin companies regulated more. Take for instance I've an relative who lies alone and produces very little rubbish. He used go to the landfill/recycling place a few times a year. A man from a well known company called to him and told him he was breaking the law and he would have to pass his details onto the council to fine him if he did not sign up to bins. He know puts out bins ever fortnight with about a shopping bag in each of them. I've no issue with the system once it's fair and regulated but no doubt the one's dumping the sofa's/washing machines in the ditch will still get away with it.
Johnny Red Cab wrote: » Ah be compliant now, squeal on your neighbours. I know exactly what a police state is.
freshpopcorn wrote: » I've no issue with the system once it's fair and regulated but no doubt the one's dumping the sofa's/washing machines in the ditch will still get away with it.
Dravokivich wrote: » I would have been early teens when that happened in my area, so not too read up on it. Trying to search now and I'm only finding complaints about it by "people before profit."
LirW wrote: » I'd be so in favour of that, a lot of European countries have the same in place. Everyone gets their bins, areas have one assigned collector that's semi- private. All you gotta do is wheeling your bins out to the front. If you stuff the wrong stuff in, you'll get a warning or penalties. Waste is one of the things that if you really wanna get in control of the issue, you need to have strict rules. The current system is not sustainable.
LirW wrote: » The issue is that very little happens to people and the disposal charge of appliances can be ridiculous. There was a big issue when I was little that people would dump their appliances in the woods. It's now gone for two reasons: if you got caught (police patrolling everywhere) they'd fine you heavily and if you don't pay you'll go to court and there will be consequences like you could lose your rental, you might not get a job or welfare payments anymore or could spend a few weeks in prison. Second measure was to make the disposal of appliances free, literally. The one waste company has a big recycling center where you can bring sorted rubbish, appliances, chemicals, batteries, old paint and dispose of it for free. Bulky items like old furniture, old metal etc and sorted garden cuttings cost 4 Euro per 200kg. That together with some kind of council tax that pays bins got rid of the problem and dumping/flytipping is frowned upon, since it's more or less free to get rid of it.
Necro wrote: » It's not just sofas/washing machines though. It's black bags full of household waste being fcuked out in the mountains, or in the woods, or if they're really feeling lazy out on the street. And it's a serious problem that needs some form of deterrent. Watching the dumping spots 24/7, putting up cameras - all these are grand but the filthbags are clever and the only way to hit them is to do it this way imo. It's really simple, and no one is forcing anyone to sign up to anything. Use a waste service - you're fine. Use a recycling centre - get a receipt, and you're grand. Those who refuse to do either, I just don't give two hoots about tbh. Fine them, repeatedly and as many times as possible till they see sense.
Ubbquittious wrote: » I wouldnt. It was bad enough that they brought in property tax and I dont need any expensive bin service. Gives people no incentive not to waste either
Fann Linn wrote: » All electrical items are free to dispose of in civic amenity sites and yet ye still see tvs, washing machines, hoovers etc dumped on the sides of roads. Some people are just cnuts.
LirW wrote: » I believe rubbish is one of these things where you can't control the issue if you're not having a general plan in place. As it stands there are a variety of private companies out there that charge hefty rates, so single people like you for example don't use it. People that don't wanna pay simply flytip or burn it in their fireplaces. Why can't there be one company that services an area with one big recycling center? How can this ever get better? Pay a council tax that includes property tax, waste and water and everyone has access to bins that will be emptied without this tiring argument "but I only produce a teacup of rubbish." Doesn't matter, the country faces a huge issue with people dumping, flytipping and assaulting staff on trucks because they don't wanna sort their bins out.
freshpopcorn wrote: » You can go out of your way for some people provide resources/etc with them and they'll never have respect for the law or care.
Ubbquittious wrote: » There are several recycling centres I use and they work grand. No need for another bloody tax. Im sh1t sick of being punished for someone elses crimes. Too hard allegedly to catch the fellas dumping by the side of the road so they punish the normal folk instead. Much softer target
screamer wrote: » How are people who share bins going to prove that they do? We have a massive bin at my parents and 3 houses genuinely use it. How are we going to prove that? The bin account is in my parents name.
