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Fodder Crisis

paddysdream

Apologies if there is a thread on this but after a quick looksee can't see one.
Surprised at that as from reading on here it seems many if not the majority are farming in DA areas.The papers are full of it and it seems to be a topic of conversation even down here in the sunny South East.

Down here no shortage of feed but a serious lack of straw moving.Whether people are waiting for price rises or its not there is hard to know.A lot of straw was lost on the ground and also a good bit was baled after turning etc and would be of dubious quality at best.
Bales of hay are ranging 23 to 30 euro,4x4 straw 20/25 euro,silage somewhat similar and 8x4x3 good straw hitting 60/65 a bale.All those ex yard.Add in transport of maybe 100/150 miles each way and you have rather expensive inputs.
So are things as bad as everyone says or is it just a small proportion of farmers in trouble ie is this going to be a repeat of 2012 or will a reasonable Spring avert the crisis?
Lots of talk/meetings it seems but is anything actually happening?

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Mad_maxx

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Not around here anyway. Anything that goes up is snapped up in a few minutes. Different areas affected differently.

The country isn't that big, no shortage overall

Mad_maxx

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Tonnes of it in Donegal, Roscommon, Sligo, Galway etc. Come down to Tipp and Cork and see how much you'll find

Plenty in the North East too

dohc turbo2

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Plenty in the North East too

seems to be plenty in the south too , big yards of silage going for sale and prices starting to drop too , u can buy silage for 25 -30 a bale now , hay was 50 selling now for 35-40

mengele

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Tonnes of it in Donegal, Roscommon, Sligo, Galway etc. Come down to Tipp and Cork and see how much you'll find

I'm from cork and there's plenty around me. I know a few lads that put ads up with silage for sale on done deal and they both said they got 0 phone calls about it

whelan2

mengele wrote: »

I'm from cork and there's plenty around me. I know a few lads that put ads up with silage for sale on done deal and they both said they got 0 phone calls about it

Come April lads might be looking for it

mf240

Are the lads in the west that got silage last year sending it back this year. Or are we not mentioning that.

charolais0153

mf240 wrote: »

Are the lads in the west that got silage last year sending it back this year. Or are we not mentioning that.

I dont know anyone that got silage from the east before around here

mf240

charolais0153 wrote: »

I dont know anyone that got silage from the east before around here

The Ifa were collecting it up and sending it West last year.

Aravo

The fodder crisis last year was not there one morning but occured later on that afternoon. And there was only a crisis when it hit the ag ministers county.

green daries

Most of the severe shortage was in Donegal Sligo area as in north west Last year people who were short in the West, South west last year will be short most years but the local surplus sorts them out

grassroot1

Mad_maxx wrote:

The country isn't that big, no shortage overall

No doubt but it would cost you to transport it.

tabby aspreme

Plenty of silage bales on the move around kildare over the last few days, most of it was not going too far I would think, except for two artic loads each carrying 33 bales.

Timmaay

mf240 wrote: »

Are the lads in the west that got silage last year sending it back this year. Or are we not mentioning that.

It wasn't worth my whole last yr sending silage west from here, transport would of doubled the cost. And I absolutely cannot see it being worth while doing the reverse now, especially if all we'd be getting would be low DM September bales. Beet etc which is plentiful enough around the south east alot better value.

However fair point about the stuff that was donated last year.

older by the day

Aravo wrote: »

The fodder crisis last year was not there one morning but occured later on that afternoon. And there was only a crisis when it hit the ag ministers county.

Well I suppose its an important county ðŸ˜Š, but memory's are short, there was loads of silage made in 2017, but cattle were housed in late Sept, and were still inside till early May 18 in some places

Aravo

older by the day wrote:

Well I suppose its an important county Ã°Å¸ËœÅ , but memory's are short, there was loads of silage made in 2017, but cattle were housed in late Sept, and were still inside till early May 18 in some places

Judging by the look of PÃ¡irc UÃ ChaoimhÂ today in the important county, they could have done with a few shores. I thought the land down there was free draining.

Keep Sluicing

Aravo wrote: »

Judging by the look of PÃ¡irc UÃ ChaoimhÂ today in the important county, they could have done with a few shores. I thought the land down there was free draining.

Its free draining alright, but it gets watelogged with each high tide.

older by the day

We keep the good fields for dairy cows, do you think we'd waste a fine dry field for playing football. Your probably from one of those places that the only green field in the parish is the gaa pitch. Joking of course, theirs good and bad everywhere and plenty in between

MeTheMan

mf240 wrote: »

Are the lads in the west that got silage last year sending it back this year. Or are we not mentioning that.

The few I was talking to that got silage last year would have sent it back on the lorry it came on if they knew what was under the wrap. Bales of **** that where in the way in someone's yard the last few years. Let's not pretend great stuff was donated. But, some were glad to get it at the same time.

Water John

The pitch in PUC was always sh1te. Cork hurlers prefer to play in Thurles.

newholland mad

MeTheMan wrote: »

The few I was talking to that got silage last year would have sent it back on the lorry it came on if they knew what was under the wrap. Bales of **** that where in the way in someone's yard the last few years. Let's not pretend great stuff was donated. But, some were glad to get it at the same time.

What I seen leaving around here was all as good in that it was what the farmers themselves were using also a fair share of hay which it's easy to see what's what. But eaten bread is soon forgotten and all that

Wildsurfer

mengele wrote: »

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Tonnes of it in Donegal, Roscommon, Sligo, Galway etc. Come down to Tipp and Cork and see how much you'll find

I'm from cork and there's plenty around me. I know a few lads that put ads up with silage for sale on done deal and they both said they got 0 phone calls about it

West Cork doesn't count that's too far from the rest of the world! Check done deal now hardly no silage in the south. Im paying €45/bale delivered. Just needed the peace of mind of not running out the start of April if worse comes to pass.

mahoney_j

whelan2 wrote: »

Come April lads might be looking for it

If I was tight and found 50/100 bales for 25 /30 id buy now ,lots of grass around granted but if there’s a shortage in March/April demand will be huge and price higher and feed may not be there ,if left over so be it

restive

Silage Bales being delivered around here @ 30 for a Thousand euro.

Muckit

Into the yard? Not bad at all if they were half decent.

farawaygrass

Any amount of silage in Galway area. I put some up a week ago and I’d say ten plus adds went up that day too. No calls either

patsy_mccabe

Water John wrote: »

The pitch in PUC was always sh1te. Cork hurlers prefer to play in Thurles.

Frank Murphy says it's good enough. :cool:

Keepgrowing

4kgs of Palm Kernel will reduce a dry cows demand for silage by 40%. No brainier compared to buying lucky bags

kevthegaff

Keepgrowing wrote: »

4kgs of Palm Kernel will reduce a dry cows demand for silage by 40%. No brainier compared to buying lucky bags

How much a ton?

mengele

Keepgrowing wrote: »

4kgs of Palm Kernel will reduce a dry cows demand for silage by 40%. No brainier compared to buying lucky bags

Out of curiosity how would you feed that? Also is it just a dust or ration or what type?

Keepgrowing

mengele wrote: »

Out of curiosity how would you feed that? Also is it just a dust or ration or what type?

It’s meal as in not pellets. Feed out silage and spread on top. A feeder would be ideal. We hired a diet feeder for 6 weeks to feed it. Cows unbelievably content even though grub all eaten by 9pm