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rrs

Cavan were very good first half. Madden was a great outlet, couple of great scores from play and a good free. Jack Brady was doing OK too.
Ciarán Brady was attacking well aasusual.
Kerry obviously targeted him and Mcveety in the second half. They will probaly be doubfuk for Mayo next week.

Kerry stepped it up in the second half more hungrier. Cavan need everyone fit, as being realistic they look quite average without McKiernan for Div 1.

quidel

Cavan’s football in the first half was top quality and the ball stuck well when delivered inside long and early. A joy to watch. Credit to the inside men who looked confident and lively. The nervousness exhibited in the second half though is obviously something that will take management time to hopefully eradicate. Rather surprisingly some of Cavan’s more senior players were badly caught by indecisiveness in this period. Pleny to be positive about despite the end result. Hopefully the injuries picked up are not significant as Mayo are going to present another big challenge. As Mattie used to say, “You win or you learn”.

Cavan_King

The difference between the two teams was the free taker.

We gave an exhibition of scoring first half but in the second half we were nervous and it showed. Too many unforced errors and Kerry saw that and pushed up and pressured us.

Still, considering this is Mickey’s second game in charge and considering it was Kerry, I was delighted with what I saw.

Kerry men around me were raving about Madden, Galligan & Holla.

quidel

In fairness, it was a great display of free taking by Sean O’Shea, as a lot of the frees conceded were from out around the 45m line. They didn’t cut Cavan open through the centre as had been a worry in previous games. The loss of two players with injury at a vital stage in the second half did have an unsettling effect on Cavan and Kerry grew more into the game as a result. The direct football which was reaping dividends in the first half slowly transformed into the slow laboured play we are far to accustomed to. Cavan squandered possession unnecessarily midway through the second half and Kerry had the quality and experience to take advantage of these mistakes. A fine game of football given the conditions for the neutral.

piplip87

Just a quick summary

Poor decision making. Lost two kickable frees to try and gain a few yards. Didn't want to attack in the second half. Too long build up play. Gave away far to many frees in the first half even though 2 of them where in no way frees.

The first half is one of the best Half's of football I've seen a Cavan team produce in years. Direct running and kicked some fantastic scores. Don't know what happened in the second half but there's we put it up to one of the best teams in the country for 60 minutes. We need another improvement for Mayo.

Overall more to be positive about this evening than there has been in a few years

quidel

Hopefully Cavan can put in an improved performance on Sunday that offers some optimism for the remainder of the season. Should be a decent crowd in Breffni to see how we fare versus the kingdom. They are a long way from full strength so there is opportunity. Cavan certainly need to uncover a greater goal scoring threat sharpish.

Thunderbirds

Cavan_King wrote: »

TEAM NEWS: Senior Panel to play Kerry

Senior management have named the panel for this Sunday’s Allianz Football League Round 2 game v Kerry. Throw in is 2.00pm in Kingspan Breffni.

The team sees two changes from last week in Galway as Christopher Conroy is named at corner back and Conor Bradley is included in the matchday panel.

Panel v Kerry
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Christopher Conroy (Lavey)
5. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Rehill (Crosserlough)
8. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Pierce Smith (Crosserlough)
11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
12. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
13. Jack Brady (Ramor United)
14. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)
15. Conor Madden (Gowna)

16. Liam Brady (Ramor United)
17. Barry Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
18. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
19. Paul Graham (Cavan Gaels)
20. Stephen Smith (Crosserlough)
21. Luke Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
22. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
23. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
24. Oisin Pierson (Gowna)
25. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
26. Kevin Tierney (Ballyhaise)

http://cavangaa.ie/2019/02/cavan-panel-play-kerry/

Conroy is a specialist free taker so you would have to wonder if that is why he starts.

Conroy a good free taker if free centrally. If at an angle struggles.

Cavan_King

TEAM NEWS: Senior Panel to play Kerry

Senior management have named the panel for this Sunday’s Allianz Football League Round 2 game v Kerry. Throw in is 2.00pm in Kingspan Breffni.

The team sees two changes from last week in Galway as Christopher Conroy is named at corner back and Conor Bradley is included in the matchday panel.

Panel v Kerry
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Christopher Conroy (Lavey)
5. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Rehill (Crosserlough)
8. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Pierce Smith (Crosserlough)
11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
12. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
13. Jack Brady (Ramor United)
14. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)
15. Conor Madden (Gowna)

16. Liam Brady (Ramor United)
17. Barry Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
18. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
19. Paul Graham (Cavan Gaels)
20. Stephen Smith (Crosserlough)
21. Luke Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
22. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
23. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
24. Oisin Pierson (Gowna)
25. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
26. Kevin Tierney (Ballyhaise)

http://cavangaa.ie/2019/02/cavan-panel-play-kerry/

Conroy is a specialist free taker so you would have to wonder if that is why he starts.

Cavan_King

New manager, a few new players, some only returning and we’re playing the top teams in the country - I think people need to get a bit of perspective.

Things aren’t going to turn around in a weekend and there was a lot of false optimism last week - we were playing an All Ireland semi finalist.

I think it’s going to be a tough league campaign and year but we’ll have to stick with the management long term.

rrs

Why is Brian Magee not on panel this year? He might not have shot the lights out but done reasonably well for his first year on the Senior panel. He is a player that would have improved with more training at that level. Good size and has some power

Crash Bang Wall

My 2 cents

We were incredibly wasteful, especially in the first half.

The strategy of pushing up zonally on kickouts didnt work.......the keeper always had options and was able to find them with ease......and it didnt change until the last 5 minutes

Either push up man to man, push up extra men, or drop back and give them the kickout....pushing up more men suffocated them in the last few minutes....that should have been done earlier.

We fell apart in the second half when cards were being dealt out......Martin Reillys was very harsh, as he was being fouled.....I didnt see what Gunner did, but Clarkes was just stupid.....he just blocked a runner.....no need for it, especially from an experienced player.

McVeety was well shackled.......Argue needs to fill out a bit and impose himself physically.

And why is Sean O Shea getting all the credit for sideline kicks, when Jack Brady done the same

We look small relative to other Div 1 teams......not just in height, in build as well.....not much we can do there in the short term

baconsarnie

Few things from yesterday. Apologies for the length of this, it's almost like therapy!!!

Really bad second half performance. Given the level of injuries that Galway had, I really feel we let two points slip, and if we had any hope of staying up we needed to beat Galway, Roscommon & Mayo.

I'll try to find to some positives first. Martin Reilly had a brilliant game. Galligan again (missed frees aside) bailed us out many times. Madden did well and Jack Brady kicked two lovely scores.

Otherwise, that was a poor performance. Cleaned out of it in the middle of the park. Any team can cut us open at will by running straight at us. Down in the McKenna cup could have had 2 or 3 goals only for Galligan to save us, and he did it again yesterday. I dread to think of what the Dubs, Monaghan or Kerry will do to us unless we tighten up sharpish. Not sure any of our full backs (or Clarke as sweeper) managed to get out in front of any of the Galway full forwards at any stage during the day.

There was also a ridiculous amount of positional changes throughout the game. We need a free taker. Couple of bad misses in the first half that had an impact. Young Smith (who did okay, and never went missing) missed a sitter to put us 6-2 up and that could have given us a nice platform. Instead Galway went straight up to make it 5-3 and then pegged us back.

I am sure Mickey Graham will improve things, but the frustrating thing for me is that not only have we not gone forwards, we have gone backwards. In 2016 we beat Galway at home to get promotion. Lots of lads from that performance either have stalled or look like they have gone backwards. I had genuinely high hopes that we were going in the right direction.

Back then we had finally managed a balance between a well organised defence and attack. Since 2017 we have been cut open again and again. McManus will be licking his lips for his trip to Breffni unless we can sort out our backs.

Worryingly, we lacked any sort of leadership when the game turned. We were only 3 points down during the second half and it might as well have been 33 for the lack of conviction. No one there to lift the team and build a fightback. I know the black cards had an impact, but a worrying trend continues for this side that once the chips are down, we don't have enough fight in us.

Fitness is an issue, and not just for the one lad mentioned. Some of our lads looked out on their feet after about 20 minutes. How it is possible for us to be second best for nearly every ball to a poor enough Galway side?

And finally, the ref was very poor for both teams. How can you get a black card for a bit of a tussle? How was the Galway lad who cleaned Thomas Galligan out of it after the whistle not even carded? Mc Veety was walking a fine line and Clarke could have easily gotten the line (he should have been booked before he was black carded).

Right, that's it. Not really looking forward to next Sunday to be honest, unless Mickey can work miracles!!!

Cavan_King

quidel wrote: »

The physical conditioning of seasoned division 1 sides like Monaghan, Dublin, Tyrone and Mayo among others is way ahead of where Cavan are at right now. I dare say a fair few Div 2 sides like Donegal, Armagh and Kildare are well ahead too. That will take some time for Cavan to address.

I think the county board are trying to address that with the employment of Andre Quinn. Graham has also spoken about how it takes at least 12 to 24 months to get a player up to the standard required.

There’s a long road ahead.

rrs

Tierney is obviously the player. He has bulked up too much the last few years. Some were surprised he was recalled, as he wasn't that hectic with Ballyhaise last year

Kerry next week will be another step up. They were missing Crokes players and Clifford yesterday, and seemed comfortable against Tyrone.

tayto lover

Looks like it’s back to the way football was in my day 50 years ago or so.
Put the big unfit and overweight lad on the square and maybe he will upset the fullback line and it will lead to a goal. Bull in a china shop mentality.
Nice to see that football is progressing ha ha. You can’t bate the scientific approach.

Thunderbirds

cavan4sam wrote: »

Can he catch a ball and win a mark inside , if he can park him outside mc donalds for the week and wheel him down to breffni sunday

He tried running for a couple balls and looked like he was stuck.

cavan4sam

tanko wrote: »

Thunderbirds wrote: »

There was a player today that played with us that was the most overweight Cavan player in maybe ten years. Shocking to have him involved.

Who is it??

Can he catch a ball and win a mark inside , if he can park him outside mc donalds for the week and wheel him down to breffni sunday

Thunderbirds

tanko wrote: »

Who is it??

Player back on panel again.

tanko

Thunderbirds wrote: »

There was a player today that played with us that was the most overweight Cavan player in maybe ten years. Shocking to have him involved.

Who is it??

quidel

The physical conditioning of seasoned division 1 sides like Monaghan, Dublin, Tyrone and Mayo among others is way ahead of where Cavan are at right now. I dare say a fair few Div 2 sides like Donegal, Armagh and Kildare are well ahead too. That will take some time for Cavan to address.

benjy1000

The problem with Cavan over the last 10 years and more is that you have a squad of 40 lads each year and bar 2/3 players you could pick any 12 or so players from the squad and there isn’t a whole pile of difference in them.
I always found that to be a telling point.

Look at the turnover every year 10 new players or so and lads returning after a few years away but the standard never improves.
The 10 lads or so who played last year and aren’t involved this year could have played today and wouldn’t have made a difference either.

Graham could make 12 changes next week and the team wouldn’t be weakened or improved . McKiernan and Martin Reilly on their day and Mackey who unfortunately is past his best but the rest of them are only middling.

Thunderbirds

Cavan_King wrote: »

Seems very negative here. Rome wasn’t built in a day lads.

It’s the first game of the League, against the League runners up and All Ireland semi finalists last year.

Galway were nowhere near the standard that they were last year.

quidel

Last year’s Div 2 was of a very poor standard. While Cavan got promoted they were lucky enough to do so. Tipperary really ought to have sealed their promotion in Breffni. We are seeing the much higher level that the usual sides in Div 1 operate at. It’ll take time for Cavan and Graham to get up to speed particularly with a few players who have been away from the county scene a number of years now. Patience is required I guess if the hard work is being put in by players and management.

Cavan_King

Seems very negative here. Rome wasn’t built in a day lads.

It’s the first game of the League, against the League runners up and All Ireland semi finalists last year.

benjy1000

Yevon wrote: »

Today was worrying. Extremely blunt up front as usual. Smith's freetaking not up to scratch, Galligan got 1 out of maybe 4 attempts. Martin Reilly landed a monster free from the right but didn't take any more after that and Smith took an easier free from the right???

Lazy indisciplined tackling especially from Killian Clarke and Adam Rehill. Couldn't handle the pace of Galway and it took two marvellous saves from Galligan to keep us in the game.

Madden did well in patches but hit a few loose balls. Martin Reilly was excellent. Faulkner and McLoughlin did quite well.

Spot on analysis , I tell you we will do very well to pick up any points in div 1, if we were in div2 this year we would struggle to get promoted. That’s where we are at.

Midfield was quite poor today I thought. Nowhere near the standard.

Thunderbirds

There was a player today that played with us that was the most overweight Cavan player in maybe ten years. Shocking to have him involved.

Giggernaut

Cavan_King wrote: »

Who took the frees that were missed?

Galligan and P Smith missed scorable chances

Cavan_King

Thunderbirds wrote: »

Was at it. We were awful. Nobody could break the line and a lot of sideway passing. Midfield poor and missed some awful frees. A lot of lads unfit and overweight. Martin Reilly best player. Galway were poor too and a big chance missed.

Who took the frees that were missed?

Giggernaut

I travelled across, my assessment.

Cavan missed a few handy frees, landed a few in the goalies hands. Should have be at least 2 points better off going in at half time. Madden was encouraging as was P Smith. Both sides looked tired going in at half time.
Galway brought Walsh out from the corner and replaced a midfielder with an even taller ginger chap. Walshes speed ripped a very tired Cavan apart. Then black cards everywhere, lots of Cavan hand passing and ball recycling. Galligan was immense with 2 great goal bound saves and some great takes under the high ball. McVeety disappeared and then reappeared a frustrated figure, constantly fouling.
The grand plan is to move forward without a dependency on Mackie but his appearance was badly needed. He's the type of player Cavan needed to pick a pass as Galway packed the backline.
Argue is annoying, in my opinion he is very yellow. Wincing out of tackles. Galligan was named at full forward but moved into the middle. I don't know whether he was carrying an injury but Lord he was slow and ineffective.

It's the first game, with a new team playing under new management so improvement will come along with players to come back in. The lads did look wrecked. Lots of work to do. Graham tried a few positional switches but couldn't find a tune. Glad Comer was benched.

Pearse Stadium Highlights:
New Cavan jersey
Joe Canning
Galligans saves
Supermacs

Thunderbirds

Cavan_King wrote: »

Definitely not. It’s used for the odd underage game but not for senior matches. Last year when Breffni was relayed, we had to go to Enniskillen for championship games.

Anyone down at the game today? By all accounts, it sounds like the chance was there to win the game and we didn’t push on. That said, it’s promising to be there or thereabouts with a team who reached an All Ireland semi final and the league final last year, knowing things you can improve on.

Was at it. We were awful. Nobody could break the line and a lot of sideway passing. Midfield poor and missed some awful frees. A lot of lads unfit and overweight. Martin Reilly best player. Galway were poor too and a big chance missed.