For Forks Sake wrote: » I think (depending on timing) that a reunification vote could be rejected heavily in the RoI, there are a lot of concerns and leaps of faith that a lot of people may not be willing to take on board.
Donald Trump wrote: If it gets to the stage where they're looking across the border at all the lights in the Republic while they are in darkness, like the North Koreans looking across the river at the Chinese, then it might not last so long
Desiree Kind Valve wrote: » Not to mention the Hard Border requirement on the larger island, it's just shifting the same issue really.
First Up wrote: » I really wish people would forget this nonsense. Brexit is going to push Northern Ireland closer to Britain as they seek comfort in each other's arms. Talk of a united Ireland is only going to push them even closer. I hope a borderless solution can be found but our future is in Europe and there's isn't and that's how it will be for a long long time.
AtomicHorror wrote: » Yes, Celtic Federation- it's been tossed around a bit before, usually with Ireland added. I love the idea, but it's like something from an alternate history sci-fi. Zeppelins everywhere, Nazis rule London, Superman landed in the USSR, doppelgangers with goatees. Also the name would be problematic for a vocal faction within Scotland.
Enzokk wrote: All options leads to chaos, it really is just what type of chaos you are choosing right now.
Iderown wrote: » Pure fantasy on my part. After hard car crash Brexit, and Scotland votes independence, how about Northern Ireland joins Scotland in some sort of political union of convenience. Then both re-join EU. May solve hard border in Ireland difficulty. Move hard border to mainland UK.
jmayo wrote: The funny thing is a hard border and hard Brexit will push moderates towards a united Ireland.
Water John wrote: » Mentioned that idea of a Federation of the Celtic Nations, maybe similar to Benelux before, all within the EU. NI Unionists are Scots Irish mainly. That is their history. Three Countries/States with close cooperation. They can keep the Queen as Head of State if they wish.
jmayo wrote: » People need to realise the DUP and a fair chunk of their voters detest the South and they will gladly welcome a border to distance themselves from the South, even if that means hardship for them. To some people in the North relations have become too cosy with the South. And that is viewed as dangerous and a slipper slope to ultimately a united Ireland. The funny thing is a hard border and hard Brexit will push moderates towards a united Ireland.
Havockk wrote: » It's clear at this point the only solution for the North is an island one.
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » All of those looking at a UI post Brexit could well do with looking at the mess that UK politics has been for the last few years. I can only imagine how difficult negotiations would be on a UI if a border poll showed a similar majority as Leave did in the Brexit referendum. Negotiating a NI exit from the UK would make Brexit look like a holiday camp.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » This is Charles Moore writing in The Spectator. You would think this is parody, but I can assure you it's not. This person often writes similar opinion pieces for The Telegrpah. "What to do about the coming shortage of green groceries of which several supermarkets warned yet again this week if there is a no-deal Brexit on 29 March? I am just old enough to remember when fresh fruit and veg were in short supply at this time of year. People used to know how to store things to mitigate the problem: apples would be carefully laid out on straw-strewn shelves. We ate lots of root vegetables and not much greenery. If ever you saw a strawberry out of season it came, for some reason, from Israel. Perhaps it is time for a Brexit recipe book, like those comforting wartime rationing ones full of bright ideas for dull things. In our part of the south coast we have racier ideas. We have a centuries-old tradition of smuggling (‘brandy for the parson, baccy for the clerk’), and are ready to set out in our little ships to Dunkirk or wherever and bring back luscious black-market lettuces and French beans, oranges and lemons. Our Sussex and Kent smugglers used to be known as ‘free traders’, which is interesting and — if we have to sneak over an EU tariff wall — entirely appropriate for today."
For example, Barclays’ September 2023 euro bond was trading on Tuesday at a yield of 1.85 percent, some 56 basis points more than Deutsche Bank’s August 2023 issue despite the latter’s well-publicised woes.
If top names like Barclays and HSBC are finding it costly to borrow, smaller banks will have to pay even more, bankers who work on such deals said.
Peregrinus wrote: » It's an impossible speculation. But for the influence given to them by the numbers in Westminster, the DUP might have gone back into Stormont by now, Brexit or no Brexit, without any need for HMG to force them. But we'll never know, because the world in which there was no Brexit and/or no 2017 UK election is wholly imaginary.
Enzokk wrote: » If there wasn't an agreement between the Tories and the DUP to keep them in government you would think that there would have been a move already where Westminster took over the running of Stormont temporarily to force the DUP back to the negotiation table. Brexit is really the spanner in the works for how Westminster is supposed to work.
Peregrinus wrote: » Yeah, but it's one thing for the GFA to falter because the DUP don't like it and won't play ball. It's quite another for HMG to undercut or violate the GFA for reasons which have nothing to do with either the wishes or the welfare of N, and take no account of eitherI. That's just criminally irresponsible.
Peregrinus wrote: » Yeah, but it's one thing for the GFA to falter because the DUP don't like it and won't play ball. That's par for the grim course in NI politics. It's quite another for HMG to undercut or violate the GFA for reasons which have nothing to do with either the wishes or the welfare of N, and take no account of either. That's just criminally irresponsible.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Not to go off topic, but the GFA was in trouble and there was complaints before.
Zubeneschamali wrote: » SF and the DUP would have worked something out and gotten back into Stormont long ago if Brexit hadn't come and upturned everything. The DUP have been busy getting their asses kissed in Westminster, and SF have been lying doggo letting the DUP make a balls of everything.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The GFA was meant to be a process and it had totally stalled.
Enzokk wrote: » The best solution is to keep things as it was before the Brexit vote. That is what worked for most people and they could get on with their lives in peace. It is the best solution for the GFA and it is also the best solution for the UK economically, yet they insist they will not do this. The funny thing with that scenario is if NI voted for unification with Ireland the hassles with a border only gets switched to the Scottish border. You will not have the negotiations about customs posts and the GFA, but you will have a majority of Scottish people agitating to leave the UK. From one crisis to the next for the PM (whoever that would be). I don't know if that solves much as unionists like the DUP would still be fighting against it. Either way there will be someone fighting for something in NI, whether it be the majority just wanting peace and how things were or unionists looking to be part of the UK again.
