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Is London now a scary place?

Wheres Me Jumper?

like most Irish people, I visited the English many, many times, and have worked/lived there for quite a few years.

since returning home, i visited London for the first time in over 10 years . i was shocked at how violent the place had become. on 1 day travelling into the centre, i witnessed half a dozen violent incidents. i'm not talking about a few harsh words being exchanged, this was full on assaults.

in one incident a beggar was kicked in the head, and had a pint of beer poured over him by a group of young lads.

am i over-reacting or has London become a really violent place?

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Borana

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Any day. !

Is it because there is a higher possibility of receiving a snarky comment on the looks or personality in Dublin at any given moment?

wakka12

We must have gone on different days. I was there just March last year and travelled the centre extensively and didnt witness even one minor violent incident, it just seemed like the vibrant diverse and fascinating city I had always remembered it being , sad to hear it has apparently gone so violent in 9 months ...

FTA69

Nothing really happens in central London because it's largely a sterile enough place, vast majority of it is tourists and business. Things happen in the zones 2/3 parts of the city and in places like Croydon.

Sardonicat

Some Yoke wrote: »

Cromwells ghost is known to steal potatoes from the fanny packs of unwitting Irish tourists in London so ya spooky enough

Fanny packs?
Round these parts that's a slang term for a tampon.
Do you mean 'bum bags'?

Franz Von Peppercorn

Dublin isn’t unsafe really but it feels unsafe in certain areas. The gangs exist but tend to shoot each other.

London is safe. Again gangs exist but tend to stab each other.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

like most Irish people, I visited the English many, many times, and have worked/lived there for quite a few years.

since returning home, i visited London for the first time in over 10 years . i was shocked at how violent the place had become. on 1 day travelling into the centre, i witnessed half a dozen violent incidents. i'm not talking about a few harsh words being exchanged, this was full on assaults.

in one incident a beggar was kicked in the head, and had a pint of beer poured over him by a group of young lads.

am i over-reacting or has London become a really violent place?

Where were you coming from and where did you go through? Presumably it was a bus.

KingofSheep

Been living in central London for 7 years. I have never witnessed any violence as was described in the OP. I live in one moderately rough area and work in another more dodge part of the city. However, there are well reported episodes of violence that happen relatively frequently. But it usually only involves specific demographics. Young black boys stabbing each other to death being the most obvious example. As is the case in most big cities, having your head screwed on usually leads to an avoidance of trouble.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I’m still haunted by this London crime from a decade ago:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Cross_double_murder

Poor lads.

And they were only staying in the UK for three months, doing scientific research. Truly the nightmare burglary everyone fears. To compare it to my own burglary experience, the burglar that broke into my flat actually apologised to me when he realised that there was someone in the flat. He clearly thought nobody was home. This is the head of one of the lads who perpetrated the above murders.

Imagine that being the last face you see?

The actress Gemma Chan was a witness at a trial a few years back because she saw a man stab another man to death right in front of her outside a tube station in central London in broad daylight. Apparently it was a totally random attack. :eek:

Anyway, that’s two London incidents that have freaked the shît out of me.

RhubarbCrumble

lbc2019 wrote: »

The only place where I was openly offered drugs was Spain

Portugal for me. Right outside the police station at one point!

Wheres Me Jumper?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I’m still haunted by this London crime from a decade ago:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Cross_double_murder

Poor lads. And they were only staying in the UK for three months, doing scientific research. Truly the nightmare burglary everyone fears. To compare it to my own burglary experience, the burglar that broke into my flat actually apologised to me when he realised that there was someone in the flat. He clearly thought nobody was home. This is the head of one of the lads who perpetrated the above murders.

Imagine that being the last face you see?

The actress Gemma Chan was a witness at a trial a few years back because she saw a man stab another man to death right in front of her outside a tube station in central London in broad daylight. Apparently it was a totally random attack. :eek:

Anyway, that’s two London incidents that have freaked the shît out of me.

i lived on the same street as Denis Nilsen in Cranley Gdns. in Highgate. it often occurs to me that i probably shared a tube carraige with him. :eek:

branie2

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

Portugal for me. Right outside the police station at one point!

Did the police notice this?!

RhubarbCrumble

branie2 wrote: »

Did the police notice this?!

Didn't bat an eyelid.

dubrov

The OP should play the lottery as the odds of seeing 6 violent incidents on a single day trip to the centre of London are astronomical.

lbc2019

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

It really depends on what you count as London. Certain places are, and have always been no go areas, some places are extremely nice indeed. I've never felt unsafe in the square mile.

They robbed us all blind

lbc2019

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

Portugal for me. Right outside the police station at one point!

Drugs are largely decriminalised in Portugal now arent they?

lbc2019

Tory Austerity fcuks poor people the hardest

4068ac1elhodqr

'Wild West Britian':

20% of (all Eng&Wales stats) population fell victim to a crime last year.
(highest crime levels since 2002) only 8.2% conviction rate.

Violent crimes +19% (1.5million)
Homicides/Kill Rate +14% (128 in London)
Knife Crime +12% (ethnic gangs mostly), circa 100 incidents per day
Stalking and harassment +41%
Public Order offences +24% (427,134 recorded)
Robberies +17%

Statistics show that thieves stole 457,433 vehicles in year to September 2018

Overall crime was +7% (5,723,182) for 2018.
Roll the Brexit there Rosin.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Where were you coming from and where did you go through? Presumably it was a bus.

no it was by tube, from Romford into Westminster. another incident we saw was where this black guy was having a domestic with his g/f. she was white. he punched her really hard. her phone went flying down the platform. she was yelling like a scalded cat. her face was spouting blood. as per usual everybody just kept hurrying along.
didn't bother me too much, but when you got kids with you ...

Franz Von Peppercorn

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

no it was by tube, from Romford into Westminster. another incident we saw was where this black guy was having a domestic with his g/f. she was white. he punched her really hard. her phone went flying down the platform. she was yelling like a scalded cat. her face was spouting blood. as per usual everybody just kept hurrying along.
didn't bother me too much, but when you got kids with you ...

So all of the incidents happened on one carriage?

branie2

I visited London a few times, and nothing bad happened to me there

wakka12

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

no it was by tube, from Romford into Westminster. another incident we saw was where this black guy was having a domestic with his g/f. she was white. he punched her really hard. her phone went flying down the platform. she was yelling like a scalded cat. her face was spouting blood. as per usual everybody just kept hurrying along.
didn't bother me too much, but when you got kids with you ...

That so didnt happen. Not a just chance people in almost anywhere in the world would walk on past a woman being beaten bloody by a man

4068ac1elhodqr

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

So all of the incidents happened on one carriage?

Could have been worse, British Transport Police (BTP) this week suggest knife crime on Britain's rail network has 'more than tripled' in the last three years.

4068ac1elhodqr

wakka12 wrote: »

That so didnt happen. Not a just chance people in almost anywhere in the world would walk on past a woman being beaten bloody by a man

Agree, almost anywhere (else) in the world people would intervene.

klaaaz

Central London is heavily policed due to the terror attacks, I mean you'll see lots of police vehicles roaming about as well as police(armed) stationed at the tourist/royal/political sites and there are no drug clinics for the addicts in heart of London(unlike Dublin). Some of the burbs are a different story and yes most of it affects black youths more than other races. The BBC did an article on the victims(with photo's) of the stabbing sprees, perhaps around 90% of the victims were young blacks. And they have transport police too!(unlike here)

4068ac1elhodqr

Interesting stat, is that Wales now has more people (per thousand of population) locked up than anywhere else in Europe.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

So all of the incidents happened on one carriage?

Eh? no we spent the day touring the sites, so we were on and off many different stations. i honestly think we were very unlucky. when we got back to the sister's place, i just felt so relieved.

Cody montana

Lived there for years. Not much hassle.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

Eh? no we spent the day touring the sites, so we were on and off many different stations. i honestly think we were very unlucky. when we got back to the sister's place, i just felt so relieved.

You said on one day travelling into the centre, not around it.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Tomas Delightful Squaw wrote: »

Could have been worse, British Transport Police (BTP) this week suggest knife crime on Britain's rail network has 'more than tripled' in the last three years.

Violent Crime on the tube has risen by more than 43% in 3 years!
so perhaps our experience wasn't that unlucky afterall.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-46908147

Wheres Me Jumper?

branie2 wrote: »

I visited London a few times, and nothing bad happened to me there

i lived in London for many years in the late 80s/90s and i never had a problem. and in fairness during our recent trip we were not assaulted, robbed or harassed in any way.

but the level of violence and agression i witnessed was shocking. we arrived back in Ireland thanking our lucky stars that we got out when we did.
there is no way i would want to raise a family over there!