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Second Captains

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Thought I'd update the OP with links and stuff for anyone who stumbles across this.

The former Off the Ball hosts have partnered with The Irish Times to do a series of weekly podcasts. They go online each Tuesday and cover a variety of sports, with a number of contributors including Sid Lowe, Richie Sadlier, Gerry Thornley and Shane Horgan.

They can be found:
On The Irish Times' site: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains
On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/second-captains-irish-times/id647893016?mt=2

Or if you prefer not to use iTunes for your podcasts, use this link in whatever app you use (Thanks to youcancallmeal): http://feeds.feedburner.com/secondcaptainsitcom

And here are their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

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wnolan1992

so they're almost finished their gardening leave...

where will they end up?

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Hotblack Desiato

Maybe it's because the very name "Miguel Delaney" sounds so utterly wanky.

If he was called "Miguel Valencia" or "Jonathan Delaney" he wouldn't seem like an utter wanker as soon as he's introduced. :cool:

dulux99

DaaaaaaaaaaN wrote: »

Didn't realise there was a general dislike of Thornley, I tend to enjoy his analysis.

https://www.balls.ie/rugby/13-rugby-buzzwords-to-use-if-you-want-to-sound-like-gerry-thornley-98219

'Sabre rattling' and 'pound of flesh' are two I'm almost certain he slipped into recent pods.

I don't think anyone has even said they particularly disliked him to be fair. He's just a bit silly.

Dante

Didn't realise there was a general dislike of Thornley, I tend to enjoy his analysis.

https://www.balls.ie/rugby/13-rugby-buzzwords-to-use-if-you-want-to-sound-like-gerry-thornley-98219

'Sabre rattling' and 'pound of flesh' are two I'm almost certain he slipped into recent pods.

Aidric

jones wrote: »

I was trying to put my finger on what i think people are getting at when they say they hate MD and this is it. Its his delivery - he almost seems to be stumbling through sentences sometimes. I actually like him and i do think he knows his stuff

He undoubtedly knows his stuff but he definitely struggles to be articulate. It's like he has so many strands floating through his brain that he has trouble sticking to one.

He enjoys a lot of media exposure so it's surprising he hasn't developed the ability to be articulate by now.

lawred2

I like Thornley. Hard not to like his positivity.

Arghus

He doesn't really bother me either to be honest - though as people say his delivery could do with a bit of work: he seems to splutter and stumble through his sentences.

Maybe he's a dickhead on twitter, but I don't really pay attention to that.

jones

Hoppermcgrath wrote: »

I think sometimes his delivery on air is a little laborious and doesn't flow as well as his written word does. That can make him a little harder to listen to than say a Sid Lowe or somebody.

I was trying to put my finger on what i think people are getting at when they say they hate MD and this is it. Its his delivery - he almost seems to be stumbling through sentences sometimes. I actually like him and i do think he knows his stuff

dulux99

Miguel Delaney definitely knows his stuff. But he acknowledges that he knows his stuff too often. Any time he comes on SC he just comes across as a smug prick with a non stop "I knew this before everyone else" attitude.

Hoppermcgrath

Footoo wrote: »

He's a pure spoofer. Never says anything interersting, talks in generalities and appears to be a complete pr**k if his twitter is anything to go by.

I literally skip the second I hear them introduce him.

I don't think Miguel is a spoofer at all. I think he absolutely knows his stuff, seems very informed and I think he is a very good writer.

I think sometimes his delivery on air is a little laborious and doesn't flow as well as his written word does. That can make him a little harder to listen to than say a Sid Lowe or somebody.

I think he more than knows his stuff though, and I enjoy listening to him and reading his stuff.

Fair bloody play to him. He's carved out a very good career for himself out of the Sunday Tribune demise.

tomwaits48

Murph is doing a fine job filling for Eoin in fairness to him....although did he forget to play the report on sport jingle for Ken yesterday? outrageous mistake, ha

Hotblack Desiato

- Top Quatorze

The thing wot it is called

Baggly

I enjoyed the 6 nation's preview.

Raisins

aloooof wrote: »

dulux99 wrote: »

Gerry Thornley loves nothing more than sandwiching the term "ebb and flow" into a chat about a rugby match. Bloody loves it he does.

He's got a few stock phrases including
- ebb and flow ("of psychic energy" often gets tacked on).
- Top Quatorze
- fait accompli
- callow bench /

Other stalwarts are:
Leinster are “bulk suppliers” to the Irish team
Earls “he’d beat a man in a phone box”.

I like Gerry he seems a nice guy and has a real enthusiasm for the sport without any of the cynical wind up nonsense.

yosser hughes

aloooof wrote: »

"like hen's teeth" is another one I can think of.

I'll probably cop some abuse for this, but I actually like Thornley.

I like him too!

dulux99

dastardly00 wrote: »

I don't mind Thornley, he does seem to have a big interest in the top level of the sport, and he's a decent writer. And he's not a troll/wind-up merchant either.

I don't dislike him either particularly. However he's the human embodiment of everything I resented about rugby growing up. A childish way to be ..but I was a child to be fair.

dastardly00

I don't mind Thornley, he does seem to have a big interest in the top level of the sport, and he's a decent writer. And he's not a troll/wind-up merchant either.

Cienciano

dulux99 wrote: »

Gerry Thornley loves nothing more than sandwiching the term "ebb and flow" into a chat about a rugby match. Bloody loves it he does.

Now you mention it, he does say that a lot

jones

He's not the worst but he can go on a bit at times

aloooof

yosser hughes wrote: »

Ah there's loads more.
Whiff of Cordite
Since Christ was a carpenter..

I think there's va Twitter parody account

"like hen's teeth" is another one I can think of.

I'll probably cop some abuse for this, but I actually like Thornley.

yosser hughes

aloooof wrote: »

He's got a few stock phrases including
- ebb and flow ("of psychic energy" often gets tacked on).
- Top Quatorze
- fait accompli
- callow bench / <position>
- coaching ticket

Ah there's loads more.
Whiff of Cordite
Since Christ was a carpenter..
Brains Trust

I think there's va Twitter parody account

threein99

dulux99 wrote: »

If I didn't already know what he looked like, I would have guessed this was probably him on the right ;

https://twitter.com/alankealy/status/1084099724867788802?s=09

I wold have pictured him as the Ross O Carroll Kelly character

Baggly

XYZ is a factor
Certainly favour Y over Z

aloooof

dulux99 wrote: »

Gerry Thornley loves nothing more than sandwiching the term "ebb and flow" into a chat about a rugby match. Bloody loves it he does.

He's got a few stock phrases including
- ebb and flow ("of psychic energy" often gets tacked on).
- Top Quatorze
- fait accompli
- callow bench / <position>
- coaching ticket

dulux99

threein99 wrote: »

That mans voice is like nails on a chalk board to me

If I didn't already know what he looked like, I would have guessed this was probably him on the right ;

https://twitter.com/alankealy/status/1084099724867788802?s=09

threein99

Footoo wrote: »

He's a pure spoofer. Never says anything interersting, talks in generalities and appears to be a complete pr**k if his twitter is anything to go by.

I literally skip the second I hear them introduce him.

Do you judge everyone by how they appear on the cesspool that is Twitter ?

threein99

dulux99 wrote: »

Gerry Thornley loves nothing more than sandwiching the term "ebb and flow" into a chat about a rugby match. Bloody loves it he does.

That mans voice is like nails on a chalk board to me

dulux99

Gerry Thornley loves nothing more than sandwiching the term "ebb and flow" into a chat about a rugby match. Bloody loves it he does.

Brock Turnpike

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

What podcast number was the Snyed lad on? I was doing lots of skipping so must have missed him. Was he on about the domestic game?

He was on about Luke Kelly's love of football, but then suck around for some general football chat.

mcgucc22

OldMrBrennan83 wrote:

What podcast number was the Snyed lad on? I was doing lots of skipping so must have missed him. Was he on about the domestic game?

1378

lawred2

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I think Ken is just more interested in characters rather than teams. He spent another long 15 minutes on his other favourite subject, Neymar, on last Thursday's pod.

But characters are what make the game interesting

Teams after for sticker books