eggman100 wrote: » Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the name of this thread be, The Anti - Brexit Discussion Thread? Created for EU fans who want brexit cancelled?
Shelga wrote: » Turned on to Sky News in the middle of a woman in Sunderland saying she runs her own business and imports a niche, short-shelf-life product from Holland, and if there are delays at the ports for even 48 hours in the case of a no deal Brexit, she will be out of business. Presenter then says- “But you voted leave?”- her response was “yes, and I have absolutely no regrets about that.” These people are done for.
briany wrote: Unfortunately, I don't think anyone in the UK government has any idea what the alternative would be in real workable terms.
seamus wrote: » For all of five minutes until the EU demand the £39bn be discharged before a trade deal can be done.
unit 1 wrote: » I was just wondering today about something. If the uk unilaterally leave the eu (hard brexit) then people seem to be of the opinion that they would be breaking the gfa. It has been said on here that the gfa is a binding international agreement.If this is the case then who will arbitrate on this issue, ie breaking an international treaty, and what are the ramifications for the uk in this matter. Is it pie in the sky that things could deteriorate so badly that economic sanctions could come into play, and if not, then why not. If the uk can tear up the gfa nilly willy then how can they be trusted about anything.
downcow wrote: » I reckon the Eu will hold firm until after the 14th of feb and the next vote. If WM can hold its nerve in that vote then the Eu will start to shift on backstop.
FrancieBrady wrote: » They are on a diet of information disseminated by people like this, so pervasive is this stuff that you even get some Irish people swallowing it and spreading it.https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1089975727548780547
An Claidheamh wrote: » Richard Hitchens of the Daily Mail, not exactly a liberal, once described that weirdo as a "semi-literate racist". He appears to have gotten on RT News pretending to know stuff about Brexit, but just moans about the success of Ireland. He's the typical envious unionist. He obsessed with Ireland.
unit 1 wrote: » I was just wondering today about something. If the uk unilaterally leave the eu (hard brexit) then people seem to be of the opinion that they would be breaking the gfa. It has been said on here that the gfa is a binding international agreement. If this is the case then who will arbitrate on this issue, ie breaking an international treaty, and what are the ramifications for the uk in this matter.
Tell me how wrote: » On what basis have you formed this opinion? What sliver of behaviour or statement have you seen from anyone outside the EU to indicate that this will happen?
downcow wrote: » The gfa stuff is simply an Eu bargaining chip. If it breaks the gfa to have additional checks on the Irish border then it definitely breaks it if there are additional checks on the Irish Sea. The only place that checks won’t affect the feelings/indenty of northerners is to have them between France and ireland. So if peoople really a fiddlers about gfa then there would be serious discussions about the possibility of having them in France.
downcow wrote: I reckon the Eu will hold firm until after the 14th of feb and the next vote. If WM can hold its nerve in that vote then the Eu will start to shift on backstop.
Midlife wrote: » My basic stance on Brexit is this: It could have been done well, it might even have made economic sense long term. Noway, Switzerland etc all do fine.
Midlife wrote: » But the thing that makes me furious at the back of it all is the hipocrasy of the rationale by some for Brexit. The same Tories who shut down local businesses, closed local industries and broke up local communities with Tatchernomics and then brought speculators and property developers to buy up the centre of British towns and cities are now blaming Europe and foreigners for Britian not being the way it was and the squeezing of the middle class.Britian is ****ed because their elected representatives let them down.
downcow wrote: The gfa stuff is simply an Eu bargaining chip. If it breaks the gfa to have additional checks on the Irish border then it definitely breaks it if there are additional checks on the Irish Sea. The only place that checks won’t affect the feelings/indenty of northerners is to have them between France and ireland. So if peoople really a fiddlers about gfa then there would be serious discussions about the possibility of having them in France.
prawnsambo wrote: » So you haven't even read the GFA then. Because if you had, you wouldn't have posited that frankly weird claim.
downcow wrote: » Why argue against the obvious just because it doesn’t suit your agenda. I’ll explain it slowly. No changes to be made to sovereignty of NI without support of people in a referendum A permanent backstop ensures NI rules are made by Eu which we will have zero power over and will diverge from UK. You can look up what sovereignty means in the dictionary and you will find that is a change in sovereignty I am not too wound up about it as I see anything other than an agreed exit will be contrary to the gfa. But agreement will come I believe. So we don’t need to worry about gfa
First Up wrote: » Its an inter-governmental, internationally recognised agreement that includes all Northern Ireland's political parties (bar one) across the sectarian and political divide and is now part of the UK's constitutional law. Calling it a bargaining chip is akin to the defendant in a murder trial, calling the law against homicide a bargaining chip for the court. It would be a pity if the feelings of some northeners were offended by checks across the Irish Sea but there is a lot more than feelings at stake if the alternative is introducing barriers between Ireland and the rest of Single Market.
downcow wrote: » The gfa stuff is simply an Eu bargaining chip. If it breaks the gfa to have additional checks on the Irish border then it definitely breaks it if there are additional checks on the Irish Sea.
