Joe_ Public wrote: » Calling these guys morons doesn’t seem unreasonable given the stuff they come out with, but I don’t believe we should ever underestimate their ability to pander to their constituency and make capital out of ridiculous positions.
lawred2 wrote: » think his tweet may be now 'unavailable' hope someone got a screenshot
Infini wrote: » In this Age, Someone, Somewhere, Will always Screenshot your bullshyt!
trellheim wrote: » Right so assuming its a hard brexit What to start stocking up on ? Assuming the HoC Caves or the EU caves at the last minute , or there isnt a deal this will still leave us at March 28th and everyone else will have emptied the shelves.... so what to buy ?
'May can no longer be trusted': European press condemns PM
EdgeCase wrote: » I'd suspect there'll be a short disruption to some supplies but that most will just reroute and be replaced rather quickly. It's also worth noting that many of the products that we assume are made in the UK actually aren't. A friend of mine was for some reason considering stockpiling things like household detergents. I was looking at the origins and in a lot of cases they're continental / pan-European products that are just localised with a UK & IE label. E.g. Ariel's made in France, Fairly Liquid is made in Germany, a lot of products are made in Poland and parts of southern Europe. Most of our fresh vegetables and so on seem to come from NL, Spain and further afield. We'll be missing some products but I've confidence in the fact that our supermarket chains aren't morons and are quite Irish-based and will be able to cope and adapt quite quickly. Also Ireland has the advantage of being relatively small scale which makes switching logistics systems around a lot easier. The UK is cutting itself off from one of the only two giant, mixed, stable consumer markets in the world. Ireland retains full access to that. My view of it is they're in a FAR worse position than we are and a lot of the headlines are about trying to cause panic here or trying to deflect attention from how dire the situation in the UK could become by using whataboutery tactics.
Shelga wrote: » How much of their fresh food does the UK import? Fruit, vegetables, meat, dairy, eggs etc- surely they produce a hell of a lot of this stuff themselves, and their internal market would grow, if farmers can no longer export as easily? Anyone have any statistics on this? Again, I think Brexit is completely moronic, but talk of people dying in their thousands is surely exaggeration?
snotboogie wrote: » The issue is that 99% of the mainland European produce that comes to Ireland transits through the UK. I don't see much of anything in place to replace this in the case of a hard Brexit.
EdgeCase wrote: » A lot of it can be handled by simply moving ships into Irish service. There's already at least one Brexit buster ferry in place which can handle 14km of trucks at a time. Logistically speaking, the Irish market is not THAT big or complicated to service. If there's a demand for shipping on Irish-continental routes, there'll be capacity brought on stream by moving ships from elsewhere. Bear in mind that due to potential chaos at ports in the UK, there'll be less goods moving through which may result in excess ferry capacity moving from there to routes between here and France / Belgium.
Irishmale0399 wrote: » There are plans in place, know that first hand as I worked on them for a German company. Major supermarket chains can ship from France without any problems. The UK press are trying to put things like this out to try and swing the general opinion of the Irish public. That would put pressure on Leo and co. however we dont have to worry...as the EU stands together on this one.
snotboogie wrote: » Are they increasing the number of sailings? Right now there are only 10 to 15 sailings per week combined between all ports and ferry companies in Ireland, i think.
Quickpip wrote: » downcow wrote: » I think the referendum result in Northern Ireland is the best reflection of what the views of people up North are, rather than a radio phone in show. That was 56% to remain and 44% to leave if memory serves me right. It roughly broke down to the same old historical voting patterns(Normal people and headcases). I can only guess you are suggesting the 44% are headcases. A bit extreme maybe
downcow wrote: » I think the referendum result in Northern Ireland is the best reflection of what the views of people up North are, rather than a radio phone in show. That was 56% to remain and 44% to leave if memory serves me right. It roughly broke down to the same old historical voting patterns(Normal people and headcases).
Varik wrote: » The direct sea route will take far longer.
Theresa May has been warned the EU will settle for a no-deal Brexit rather than abandon the Irish backstop, as Brussels ramped up its refusal to reopen talks.A senior MEP, serving on the European Parliament's Brexit Steering Group, said the prime minister’s plea to rip up the existing agreement would be rejected – because a no-deal outcome was “the lesser evil”. “There will be a price to pay, but the calculus that is being made on this side of the Channel is that the cost of hurting the integrity of the single market will be significantly bigger,” said Philippe Lamberts.
eagle eye wrote: » This whole idea that the EU should stay tough is like shooting yourself in the foot. We, the people of the Republic of Ireland, are the innocent bystanders in all of this. The EU have a responsibility to protect us. We don't want higher taxes and we certainly don't want the troubles starting again. You can drag Teresa May under the bus all you want and the Tories and Corbyn and they all deserve it but the EU have a responsibility to us. They are looking at the UK and deciding they are going to win the battle instead of considering all the members of the EU that reside on this island.
Nody wrote: » A couple of months later (need to get things to settle in and be really bad) the new Tory leader will sign the WA deal with support from Labour and DUP gets thrown under the red bus.
Shelga wrote: » How much of their fresh food does the UK import? Fruit, vegetables, meat, dairy, eggs etc- surely they produce a hell of a lot of this stuff themselves, and their internal market would grow, if farmers can no longer export as easily?
Akrasia wrote: » Will there be food rationing Before 29th of March in the UK if there isn't any deal agreed before then? Basically, as it comes closer to brexit day, there will be panic buying. People who can afford it will stockpile up on food, like they're already stockpiling medicines and the shelves will start to become empty in the weeks before brexit day.
EdgeCase wrote: » Cork to Roscoff takes 14 hours using a conventional non-fast ferry, the Brittany Ferry's flagship MV Port Aven. The Dublin to Antwerp / Rotterdam routes could be useful for non-time-sensitive freight that transits the UK at present, but you could also have extended ferries on South coast of Ireland to Brittany routes for food that's under time pressure for spoilage. The Pont Aven is geared up for tourism, but there are ferries that could be put onto those routes quite easily that are more geared up towards truckers. At present because of the land bridge, the development of Cork or Rosslare to France freight focused ferries hasn't been commercially viable and the focus has been on tourism, but the potential is there and the ability to move ferries to those routes is also there.
VinLieger wrote: » Isn't it too late then? Once they are out they are out and the WA is defunct so they need to start on an FTA?
