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mfceiling

wp_rathead wrote: »

Jaysus "A Star Is Born" was sh!te
Good soundtrack but the film was just trope after trope

Is that the lady gaga film? Wife asked if I wanted to go and see it....My 23 second stare in silence at her told her to invite her sister instead. No man should be watching any sh*te like that or any musical at all in fact.

*Apologies if you are female*

Squidgy Black

It takes a special breed to like musicals. I'd rather have my ears chopped off.

There's no valid excuse for replacing a dialogue scene with a song.

sydthebeat

Are English mps really living in the same planet?

Do they not realise the withal agreement was 2 years in the making and the back stop is a vital element of it?

Now they are going to have some fantastical "alternative arrangement" that doesn't exist, and requires EU negotiation in order set in place..

La la la unicorns and rainbows

Squidgy Black

sydthebeat wrote: »

Are English mps really living in the same planet?

Do they not realise the withal agreement was 2 years in the making and the back stop is a vital element of it?

Now they are going to have some fantastical "alternative arrangement" that doesn't exist, and requires EU negotiation in order set in place..

La la la unicorns and rainbows

I might be opening a big bag of worms with this, but there's slight similarities to the Anglo-Irish treaty signing with the backstop.

May went over to Brussels, and negotiated the backstop under pressure of deadlines etc and conceded. When she got back, the rest of the MPs were furious and calling it a farce that she went and agreed such concessions.

irishbucsfan

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I might be opening a big bag of worms with this, but there's slight similarities to the Anglo-Irish treaty signing with the backstop.

May went over to Brussels, and negotiated the backstop under pressure of deadlines etc and conceded. When she got back, the rest of the MPs were furious and calling it a farce that she went and agreed such concessions.

Apart from absolutely everything that happened during those negotiations, it was the EXACT same!

[Deleted User]

wp_rathead wrote: »

Jaysus "A Star Is Born" was sh!te
Good soundtrack but the film was just trope after trope

mfceiling wrote: »

Is that the lady gaga film? Wife asked if I wanted to go and see it....My 23 second stare in silence at her told her to invite her sister instead. No man should be watching any sh*te like that or any musical at all in fact.

*Apologies if you are female*

After giving out so much about comic book films I'm almost afraid to say........

A Star Is Born is the best films I've seen in the cinema since Blade Runner 2049. I was afraid it was gonna be a chick-flick-musical but the songs are organically placed throughout the film (bar maybe one or two) and they feed into the plot. It's about a functional alcoholic rock star, not quite chick flick material. I was skeptical for the first 20 minutes then it gripped me. Highly recommend it.

[Deleted User]

ClanofLams wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKiUqyvm7Zk

The comments under this are bizarre. It's obviously bots or whatever, just find it astonishing how common place this is now.

That's actually an alarmingly concentrated amount of propaganda. I can't believe it's that overt.

Squidgy Black

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Apart from absolutely everything that happened during those negotiations, it was the EXACT same!

Ah cmon now. I said slight.

Neil3030

My favourite comment from a mate today:

The EU are sticking to their guns and the UK negotiating position is basically "well if we commit suicide it'll totally ruin your carpet"

ClanofLams

Deleted User wrote: »

That's actually an alarmingly concentrated amount of propaganda. I can't believe it's that overt.

It's incredible. The video only has just over 2k views yet hundreds of comments from purported Irish posters anti EU, a country that has circa 90% of people pro EU. It just shows if a clip that is relatively small fry is that infested how bad everything else must be.

CatFromHue

If you look at that channel all the videos have a lot of comments under them.

thomond2006

Who is paying for these comments?

I'm dying laughing at the suggestion that Ireland leaving the EU is the will of the people. :pac:

I notice this youtube account is posting clips from the Irexit conference....yeah g'luck.

Neil3030

When the UK eventually cave and remain in a borderless customs union style arrangement, Ireland should immediately troll them to death by entering into the Schengen agreement.

Squidgy Black

thomond2006 wrote: »

Who is paying for these comments?

I'm dying laughing at the suggestion that Ireland leaving the EU is the will of the people. :pac:

I notice this youtube account is posting clips from the Irexit conference....yeah g'luck.

It's the Irish yellow vests.

All 5 of them making multiple accounts

Neil3030

Squidgy Black wrote: »

It's the Irish yellow vests.

All 5 of them making multiple accounts

Na Léiní Buí!

awec

no politics. There’s a politics forum if you want to discuss this stuff but not here.

sydthebeat

awec wrote: »

no politics. There’s a politics forum if you want to discuss this stuff but not here.

Can I clarify that brexit is OK as, in my view anyway, it's beyond politics?

awec

sydthebeat wrote: »

Can I clarify that brexit is OK as, in my view anyway, it's beyond politics?

Not the political stuff, but the practicalities of it are ok, specifically in Ireland.

[Deleted User]

awec wrote: »

Not the political stuff, but the practicalities of it are ok, specifically in Ireland.

Can we have a politics thread in the rugby forum? The politics Forum is full of very silly people...

stephen_n

ClanofLams wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKiUqyvm7Zk

The comments under this are bizarre. It's obviously bots or whatever, just find it astonishing how common place this is now.

Why do you think they are bots? There are plenty of people out there with those views. They would generally subscribe to people like that poster too. Birds of a feather and all that.

Farage is definitely reincarnated from an Ostrich though.

Buer

stephen_n wrote: »

Why do you think they are bots? There are plenty of people out there with those views. They would generally subscribe to people like that poster too. Birds of a feather and all that.

Farage is definitely reincarnated from an Ostrich though.

I don't know about plenty but there is certainly an element and some of them are extremely vocal. The extremes of either side of the political spectrum are very active in the online community. It gives them a very easy medium to be anonymous and state their more extreme views without any comeback whilst reaching a wide audience.

irishbucsfan

stephen_n wrote: »

Why do you think they are bots? There are plenty of people out there with those views. They would generally subscribe to people like that poster too. Birds of a feather and all that.

Farage is definitely reincarnated from an Ostrich though.

The people out there with those views are being wound up by bots. Every country around the world is subject to it.

wp_rathead

mfceiling wrote: »

Is that the lady gaga film? Wife asked if I wanted to go and see it....My 23 second stare in silence at her told her to invite her sister instead. No man should be watching any sh*te like that or any musical at all in fact.

*Apologies if you are female*

Squidgy Black wrote: »

It takes a special breed to like musicals. I'd rather have my ears chopped off.

There's no valid excuse for replacing a dialogue scene with a song.

Ya see I actually like musicals
More so stage musicals like Hamilton, Matilda and Book of Mormon - all brilliant

The music was the only saving grace of the film

[Deleted User] wrote: »

After giving out so much about comic book films I'm almost afraid to say........

A Star Is Born is the best films I've seen in the cinema since Blade Runner 2049. I was afraid it was gonna be a chick-flick-musical but the songs are organically placed throughout the film (bar maybe one or two) and they feed into the plot. It's about a functional alcoholic rock star, not quite chick flick material. I was skeptical for the first 20 minutes then it gripped me. Highly recommend it.

I'll agree it's not a chick-flick template - but I still found the whole thing predictable and unsatisfactory. I'd high hopes for it
(And yes, Blade Runner 2049 is amazing)

stephen_n

irishbucsfan wrote: »

The people out there with those views are being wound up by bots. Every country around the world is subject to it.

The comments on that video were mostly to rambling to be bots. The single line stuff like calling for Claire to be fired or the comment about RTÉ being state propaganda yes, maybe.

I left Facebook because I was connected to a few people through dance music events. It seemed at times that their entire friend groups were made up of these people. After banging my head off a brick wall engaging with them enough times, I left. From these interactions I am of the view that there is a sizesble sub section of Irish society that subscribes to these views. Though nowhere near big enough to influence popular opinion or a vote thank god. They also tend to be drawn to each other over the internet into large echo chambers.

mfceiling

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Can we have a politics thread in the rugby forum? The politics Forum is full of very silly people...

So is the rugby forum...

*Obviously not you venjur*

aloooof

Deleted User wrote: »

Can we have a politics thread in the rugby forum? The politics Forum is full of very silly people...

Have ya not been in the Ireland thread this week?

Podge_irl

Squidgy Black wrote: »

It takes a special breed to like musicals. I'd rather have my ears chopped off.

There's no valid excuse for replacing a dialogue scene with a song.

I absolutely love musicals, though like wp_ moreso on the stage. Not sure they generally work in movies.

ClanofLams

stephen_n wrote: »

Why do you think they are bots? There are plenty of people out there with those views. They would generally subscribe to people like that poster too. Birds of a feather and all that.

Farage is definitely reincarnated from an Ostrich though.

Someone sent it on to me, I hadn't realised at the time that the account was churning our videos like that. I still wouldn't believe that the comments are legitimate from different Irish people with one account each though.

irishbucsfan

ClanofLams wrote: »

Someone sent it on to me, I hadn't realised at the time that the account was churning our videos like that. I still wouldn't believe that the comments are legitimate from different Irish people with one account each though.

Yeah I think maybe there’s a misunderstanding of exactly what bits are at play here.

There was a great podcast on the topic done by Reply All, The Prophet, which touched on their usage in Mexican elections. The level of rambling or conversational context does not really affect whether or not these are bot accounts. Some are being run by individuals in an interactive context, they’re just using multiple accounts. I’ve no doubt some are very much real people who are off the deep end and being played like a fiddle.

mfceiling

Podge_irl wrote: »

I absolutely love musicals

*Shakes fist at screen*