Folkstonian wrote: » [PHP][/PHP] Cut the melodrama. ‘Dangerous’ it is not. ‘Revision’ it is not. People were told in a thick booklet delivered by Cameron’s government to every household in the U.K. that leaving the EU would mean an inevitable loss of access to a wide range of European agencies, including agencies based in Britain. David Davies has always been regarded as a figure of comedy.
Folkstonian wrote: » Ineptitude amongst the current custodians of the great offices of state? I presume you are looking for disagreement from me on thst front, but you won’t get it. I’m fairly sure back home my parents will still have the government’s booklet delivered prior to the referendum filed away somewhere. Somewhat interestingly, that booklet actually stated (or warned, depending on perspective) that voting to leave would see Britain leave the single market, customs union, defence partnerships and a host of European agencies.
funkey_monkey wrote: » WTO rules out need for Hard Border - Nov 2018 So, if the WTO states there is no need for a hard border (until someone else complains about it) how likely is it that another nation would lodge a complaint and how long would it take to resolve? I'm assuming that there would only be a financial penalty and not an 'order' to erect some type of border checks.
Enzokk wrote: » Okay, seems like the UK Government plan is to tell the EU that they will have to reopen the negotiations again. Unsurprisingly the EU has ruled this out. So it seems that once again Theresa May has her plans ruled out before she even presents it to the EU. Just like Chequers where her plan was ruled out before she even had the chance to prepare for her meetings with the EU.Guardian Politics Live Update at 11h57: Then at 12h31,
A no-deal Brexit threatens the UK's food security and will lead to higher prices and empty shelves, retailers are preparing to warn MPs. M&S, Sainsbury's and Waitrose are among those warning stockpiling fresh food is impossible and that the UK is very reliant on the EU for produce. The warning comes in a letter from the British Retail Consortium and is signed by many of the main food retailers. It comes ahead of crucial votes in Parliament tomorrow. The letter from the retailers, seen by the BBC, says there will be "significant risks" to maintaining the choice, quality and shelf life of food. "We are extremely concerned that our customers will be among the first to experience the realities of a no deal Brexit," the letter says.
Enzokk wrote: » Wait, everybody from the leave side told voters not to believe Cameron and his fear mongering. That is when Project Fear was shouted by all and sundry, now you want to tell people that they should have believed the people you told them to ignore? This is probably one of the most ridiculous statements out there regarding Brexit. This is almost as ridiculous as telling the EU that there will be technology to easily negate the need for a border so there is no need for the backstop. Have I missed it that we have somehow ended up in the movie Idiocracy?
Russman wrote: » Its the likes of this that I think makes a no-deal crash out pretty much nailed on at this point. The numbers for May just don't stack up, no matter which way she goes. Why, oh why she won't move on a different red line than the backstop, is beyond me. A bit like the old joke about a carrier group demanding a lighthouse change its course to get out of its way - its just not going to happen. I guess her only hope is to try wait them out until 28th March and hope her deal is a bit less worse than the alternative.
Enzokk wrote: » Another warning about food from Retailers
Folkstonian wrote: » Because Scotland is a constituent country of a greater sovereign state, whilst the EU is, for now, an association of sovereign states. Surely even the most ardent Scottish separatist (is this what you are?) would see why the process is different? Scotland voted in a nationalist government, which in turn requested a referendum on independence. Which was then freely, fairly, and peacefully contested. And lost. If they want another vote, they are absolutely welcome to it. You can pile on the British government and the wider political system over Brexit all you want, but I think it is absolutely absurd that you would attempt to disparage and discredit the manner in which that particular episode was dealt with. Yes, England and Scotland are separate countries. But the union has been, until the last few years, a phenomenal success. Efforts like yours seem to be just a subtly snide attempt to gloss over its unprecedented accomplishments
Nody wrote: » On a side note the lighthouse one appears to be an actual event involving a Spanish Lighthouse and a US navy group going to the Iraq war :P
Folkstonian wrote: » Presumably Britain will need a similar regulatory body now, so the British staff members will be fast tracked into it
J Mysterio wrote: » You know well that the Scots kept the Union based on the status quo i.e. being part of the UK in the EU. They won't make that mistake again.
CelticRambler wrote: » As pointed out in an earlier post, Britain has the MHRA which is (for now) working as an EU-recognised regulatory body. It's role, post Brexit, will not change dramatically, so it's unlikely that there'll be hundreds of jobs to be filled. Why? Because the EMA was the coordinating body for the 28 national authorities; the UK will not need to coordinate itself (well ... :rolleyes: ) Furthermore, the MHRA has already published its post-Brexit plan, which is (in effect) to copy-and-paste everything the EU does/says/requires into UK rules, then figure the rest out as time goes by. Voilà: no need to employ anyone to do anything extra. Where the potential difficulties UK-based companies will arise is in the development of new medicines and medical devices, which will need EU approval if they're to be used in any of the 500m EUropeans, and that's where the UK risks a steady loss of medical and pharma jobs over several years - and the associated contribution to GDP.
Folkstonian wrote: » Thank you for your honest appraisal of my capacity for critical analysis and retention of knowledge. I played no part in any political campaign, by the way. So I don’t know who the ‘you’ that you so aggressively refer to is.
VinLieger wrote: » Pretty sure its been debunked well and truly and is just apocryphal
ilovesmybrick wrote: » I was just about to post that. What stunned me most of all is the sheer idiocy on display in the comments. "If we don't by it who will?", "Boo hoo no avocado", "Exactly who or what is going to stop foreign food entering the UK: The UK Government? The European farmers perhaps, worried that we won't cook their broccoli to European specifications?". Presumably there are quite a lot of trolls at work, but the sheer number of people that seem to believe that the entire food production system in the EU only services the UK is utter madness.
Folkstonian wrote: » We shall see, I suppose. Your confidence would appear to be unfounded in the most recent of polls on independence though.
Hurrache wrote: » Sabine Welyand speaks about what the English gov are up to at a press conference todayhttps://twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/status/1089893167250530306https://twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/status/1089893589688160256
Professor Moriarty wrote: » And if you were reading The Telegraph, it's just a matter of deciding what Britain wants, then nipping over to Brussels and telling them to get on with it.
Water John wrote: » David Davis was being put forward as an option for PM within the last 2 years. Saying he was viewed as a figure of fun, is rewriting the facts. I remember writing here, that having seen a performance from him of QT, that he was an idiot and how could people be considering him PM ,material.
Leroy42 wrote: » TBF to the Telegraph, the MP's are saying that as well.
AtomicHorror wrote: » The European Medicines Agency closed up their Canary Wharf HQ on Friday after 24 years in London. That's 900 jobs to be relocated or re-staffed, not to mention knock-on effects as pharma companies re-allocate their regulatory-facing staff, some of whom will no longer be able to legally operate in the UK from April.
Mr.Wemmick wrote: » Might as well as have Larry the Downing Street cat run for PM.
ilovesmybrick wrote: » https://twitter.com/eastantrimmp/status/1089899355346296832 So, now is the time for Theresa May to exploit the "chaos" in Brussels and Dublin and this is due to "intransigence" in Brussels and the Irish government exploiting Brexit for it's own "narrow political domestic aims". Are we 100% sure Sammy Wilson isn't actually a troll or some form of candid camera comedian, because the alternative is kind of terrifying.
