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Vitamins and Minerals vat

Whirl_wolle

Currently the vat on vitamins and minerals is 0%. From the 1st of March vat of 23% will be added to vitamins and minerals.

I take a few different vitamins and minerals for a few different conditions and this move would make it more expensive.

Leo said he wanted to represent people who get up early in the morning and go to work. Many people who get up early in the morning probably wouldn't be able to do so if it wasn't for a multivitamin.

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Birneybau

All hail multivitamins. Prefer coffee myself

Undividual

That is scandalous. Taxing people who are attempting to look after their health.

Good thing we won't have to fund the health services down the road to treat the resulting ailments.

gozunda

Whirl_wolle wrote: »

Currently the vat on vitamins and minerals is 0%. From the 1st of March vat of 23% will be added to vitamins and minerals.

I take a few different vitamins and minerals for a few different conditions and this move would make it more expensive.

Leo said he wanted to represent people who get up early in the morning and go to work. Many people who get up early in the morning probably wouldn't be able to do so if it wasn't for a multivitamin.

And vat on fast food is just 13.5pc...

Makes no sense does it - except where Varadkar and friends are doing their very best to extract every last cent by what they euphemistically call "widening the tax base" - that's even more cash extracted in even more imaginative ways from you me and Jimbob. Great little country we are living in ...

Dakotabigone

Sugar tax on minerals already and now a vat hike.

Whirl_wolle

gozunda wrote: »

And vat on fast food is just 13.5pc...

Makes no sense does it - except where Varadkar and friends are doing their very best to extract every last cent by what they euphemistically call "widening the tax base" - that's even more cash extracted in even more imaginative ways from you me and Jimbob. Great little country we are living in ...

A vat of 13.5% on fast food and they want to hike up the vat on vitamins and minerals - stuff that helps people.

Absolutely scandalous.

I'd be dead if it wasn't for my range of supplements.

Your Face

Whirl_wolle wrote: »

Many people who get up early in the morning probably wouldn't be able to do so if it wasn't for a multivitamin.

That's a bit silly.

LETHAL LADY

Remember when most parents were forcing their children to swallow cod liver oil tablets daily in the 80s? What was that all about then?

Ronaldinho

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Remember when most parents were forcing their children to swallow cod liver oil tablets daily in the 80s? What was that all about then?

Go to Iceland to find out

Dakotabigone

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Remember when most parents were forcing their children to swallow cod liver oil tablets daily in the 80s? What was that all about then?

The government were telling the public to do it.

LETHAL LADY

Ronaldinho wrote: »

Go to Iceland to find out

I'm setting off now 😉

meeeeh

Or you can just have decent enough diet to get all needed vitamins and minerals. Most of supplements are about as effective as sugar pills.

LETHAL LADY

Dakotabigone wrote: »

The government were telling the public to do it.

I know, but now they're pushing Vitamin D for babies. How is anyone meant to know the best course of action?

orourkeda1977

Forget vitamins.

Have a ****. a good sweaty vat free ****

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

A good portion of Irish people don't get enough Vitamin D and Omega 3&6 Oil through their regular diet. This can lead to various health complications.

I think taxing something that is essential to basic health is horrible. Whatever paltry sum this tax will raise will cost many multiples down the line.

Dakotabigone

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

I know, but now they're pushing Vitamin D for babies. How is anyone meant to know the best course of action?

Leo needs to answer these questions, all his fault.

LETHAL LADY

Dakotabigone wrote: »

Leo needs to answer these questions, all his fault.

I'll pass then 😉

Capt'n Midnight

Should be tax on junk food.

For most people there isn't a need for vitamin supplements, just don't eat junk.

Leo thinks he's a doctor now ? :rolleyes:

Dakotabigone

We’re eating too much processed food and Macdonalds.

wakka12

meeeeh wrote: »

Or you can just have decent enough diet to get all needed vitamins and minerals. Most of supplements are about as effective as sugar pills.

And some studies have even showed that some brands/mixes make you slightly more likely to die earlier than the control group
Theres just no point in taking multi vitamins, get it through diet

Graces7

wakka12 wrote: »

And some studies have even showed that some brands/mixes make you slightly more likely to die earlier than the control group
Theres just no point in taking multi vitamins, get it through diet[/QUOTE]

For many of us that is not feasible, sadly. So there is every point. They are in effect a safety net.

N b I get my supplements from the Uk and US.

Giveaway

Even before this tax hike its cheaper to get your nurtrients from a well balanced diet. Also compare the amount of iron for example in these preps, to the amount of iron in a medicated prep to tx a trie deficiency. At most 10% the iron of the medicated prep but the advertising so effective people believe they are equivalent pills(and believe the "natural" very low potency pill is safer too). Tax the charlatans out of business

evr
You spelled "make" wrong

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paw patrol

meeeeh wrote: »

Or you can just have decent enough diet to get all needed vitamins and minerals. Most of supplements are about as effective as sugar pills.

It's pretty hard to cover all bases even with a health balanced diet.
Even without debating that modern farming and food prep methods may deliver sub optimal food.

Also you are neglecting the fact that everybody is different some people may need more of a vitamin or similar to perform optimally which may not be practical to derive directly from food.

If a person iron deficient , are you really gonna demand they eat steak for breakfast dinner and tea ? It's not balanced nor practical.
We had sod all sun in Ireland , so we should be supplementing with vitamin d as another example.

The balanced diet is a good idea but too simplistic.

Graces7

Giveaway wrote: »

Even before this tax hike its cheaper to get your nurtrients from a well balanced diet. Also compare the amount of iron for example in these preps, to the amount of iron in a medicated prep to tx a trie deficiency. At most 10% the iron of the medicated prep but the advertising so effective people believe they are equivalent pills(and believe the "natural" very low potency pill is safer too). Tax the charlatans out of business

:eek:

and you are incorrect. By all means refuse them for you. Some of us are wiser.

D9Male

The vitamin and supplement industry is a big cod. A large meta study showed no benefit in regular supplements last year.

Atoms for Peace

All the minerals you'll ever need from birth to slaughter.
https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Farming/Animal-Nutrition/Minerals/Beef-Minerals/Superchoice-Calfbeef-Bucket-Purple-20kg-0029160

Lotus Flower

paw patrol wrote: »

It's pretty hard to cover all bases even with a health balanced diet.
Even without debating that modern farming and food prep methods may deliver sub optimal food.

Also you are neglecting the fact that everybody is different some people may need more of a vitamin or similar to perform optimally which may not be practical to derive directly from food.

If a person iron deficient , are you really gonna demand they eat steak for breakfast dinner and tea ? It's not balance nor practical.
We had sod all sun in Ireland , so we should be supplementing with vitamin d as another example.

The balanced diet is a good idea but too simplistic.

This. Obviously a balanced diet is important but they're called supplements for a reason.

Graces7

D9Male wrote: »

The vitamin and supplement industry is a big cod. A large meta study showed no benefit in regular supplements last year.

proof please? Thank you

sophiexyz

Around here a left leaning world view is prevalent and promoted, so the hypocrisy of complaining about price increases due to tax/VAT increases is two faced, how else is the government going to pay for the immigrants/refugees it is bringing into the country, a policy supported by the very same posters who are the ones complaining about price rises?
Suck it up, this is what you want, Y/N?

[Deleted User]

D9Male wrote: »

The vitamin and supplement industry is a big cod. A large meta study showed no benefit in regular supplements last year.

Here is a summary of that study.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/routine-vitamin-supplementation-mostly-useless/

What they found is that:

*Multivitamins, vitamins D, C, A, B6, E, calcium, β-carotene, zinc, iron, magnesium, and selenium had no benefit or harm for vascular disease or all-cause mortality.

*Folic acid and B-complex (Folic acid, B6 and B12) reduced stroke risk

*Antioxidants and niacin increased all-cause mortality.

Another study looked at fish oil and found no benefit either via diet or supplements.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/no-benefit-from-fish-oil/[url][/url]

[Deleted User]

Graces7 wrote: »

proof please? Thank you

Just posted a summary above