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Is grammar and proof reading gone from journalism?

jimbobaloobob

This is terrible to read. Does proof reading taking place anymore ?

http://theliberal.ie/noel-edmonds-calls-out-rte-after-they-firstly-remove-then-heavily-edit-his-incredible-interview-on-rte-player/

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CrabRevolution

Should it not be "Are grammar and proof reading gone from journalism"?

Pythagorean

DaithiMa wrote: »

It is all down to spellcheck. So called writers/journalists just use it and don't bother re-reading what they have written. Pure laziness.

In a national newspaper I have seen "peak" instead of peek, "quiet" instead of quite, and vice versa, as in "a quite neighbourhood". Worse again, if you look on the SEAI ( Sustainable Energy) website, an official government site, check out the electric vehicles subsection, you will see " Regenerative breaking" repeatedly used. I did email them pointing this out, but its still there. Lack of attention to basic correct usage is bad enough, but it can lead to bizarre logical errors. What happens if your "breaks" break ??? . "there were 1000 patients waiting on a bed"

[Deleted User]

Motivator wrote: »

Most of the time these online “articles” are written by interns or people in junior positions in the company. Given their positions in the company, they’re most likely early twenty-somethings who have grown up in the social media and whatsapp age where a basic grasp on grammar is non existent.

The attached article was probably passed up to some coffee drinking, vaping moron who saw a beginning, a middle and an end and gave it the thumbs up. The articles on the independent.ie app are just as bad as this to be honest. Words missing, quotation marks missing etc.

I can guarantee that website has zero interns.

speedboatchase

I used to work for a content aggregator based in Dublin and we had to put out a news story every 30 mins. That included finding the story, writing the headline, downloading/uploading the pic, included tags, etc. The writing aspect took 10 mins, tops. And no proofreader on staff or editor looking at what we were posting beforehand. But at least I barely scraped above minimum wage!

If you're not paying for journalism, you're in no position to make demands.

[Deleted User]

Maybe if we paid for our journalism and our porn - the quality would get better again? One can hope anyway.

RacoonQueen

Motivator wrote: »

The attached article was probably passed up to some coffee drinking, vaping moron who saw a beginning, a middle and an end and gave it the thumbs up. The articles on the independent.ie app are just as bad as this to be honest. Words missing, quotation marks missing etc.

The Irish Times online is as bad. Painful to read.

Motivator

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

This is terrible to read. Does proof reading taking place anymore ?

http://theliberal.ie/noel-edmonds-calls-out-rte-after-they-firstly-remove-then-heavily-edit-his-incredible-interview-on-rte-player/

Most of the time these online “articles” are written by interns or people in junior positions in the company. Given their positions in the company, they’re most likely early twenty-somethings who have grown up in the social media and whatsapp age where a basic grasp on grammar is non existent.

The attached article was probably passed up to some coffee drinking, vaping moron who saw a beginning, a middle and an end and gave it the thumbs up. The articles on the independent.ie app are just as bad as this to be honest. Words missing, quotation marks missing etc.

gctest50

AllForIt wrote: »

Too much emphasis on commas and not enough on single inverted commas.

dat catastrophy above would need an apostrophy

pleas advice

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Out of the many United Kingdoms the one Noel Edmonds is from is indeed one of the best.

I dunno, the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves was pretty cool...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_(disambiguation)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdoms

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Undividual wrote: »

Godwin's Grammatical Law

It's actually got a name: Poe's law.

AllForIt

SHOVELLER wrote: »

A bugbear of mine forever. Absolutely no excuses anymore for spelling and grammatical errors given the software available. It shows a disrespect for the readers and yet the media complain why we, the audience, dont buy their product.

Too much emphasis on commas and not enough on single inverted commas.

wonski

To be fair unless you pay for the paper by either buying it in the shop, or paying for online subscription, you can't expect a quality product.

Church on Tuesday

Balls.ie is the worst for this.

Virtually unreadable by times.

Duckworth_Luas

My dream dinner party guests would include Alexander the Great, Ronald Reagan, Winston Churchill, Noel Edmonds, Mozart, The Crankies, Atilla the Hun and James Dean.

Then I'd blow up the building and wipe them out.

You're probable thinking "why do you want to kill people when most of them are already dead?"

Well Noel Edmonds isn't. He's still very much at large.

The other guests are merely bait for Edmonds.

DaithiMa

It is all down to spellcheck. So called writers/journalists just use it and don't bother re-reading what they have written. Pure laziness.

Irish Guitarist

Edmonds is one of the best UK’s best entertainers, watched by multi millions during the 80s and 90s and then again with Deal or No Deal in the 10s.

Out of the many United Kingdoms the one Noel Edmonds is from is indeed one of the best.

[Deleted User]

Ah yes, The Liberal.ie, paragon of journalistic excellence. The lawsuits from the MSM is just because they can't keep up with the quality, fact driven reporting of the Liberal. RTE et al are just word salad in comparison.

Pythagorean

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

This is terrible to read. Does proof reading taking place anymore ?

http://theliberal.ie/noel-edmonds-calls-out-rte-after-they-firstly-remove-then-heavily-edit-his-incredible-interview-on-rte-player/

It's bloody awful, looks like the work of a semi literate, hard to believe a " professional" journalist. Surprisingly enough, I did not find any spelling errors in the piece.

Mutant z

Journalism is gone from journalism.

[Deleted User]

The liberal.ie is a haven for troglodytes, ergo the sudden regression of homo sapiens overnight. Difficult to prioritise spelling when one is drooling uncontrollably over the keyboard.

SHOVELLER

A bugbear of mine forever. Absolutely no excuses anymore for spelling and grammatical errors given the software available. It shows a disrespect for the readers and yet the media complain why we, the audience, dont buy their product.

Undividual

sk8erboii wrote: »

Hm

LOL, you got me!

sk8erboii

Undividual wrote: »

Hm

Undividual

sk8erboii

Undividual

Douglas Shapely Stowaway wrote: »

Definitely dropped. Some woeful errors commonplace now. Now you will be told you're a grammar Nazi etc (as is part of the current reverse snobbery fashion) but criticism of sloppy, careless writing in a professional capacity is not grammar Nazism (ridiculing someone who has difficulty writing in a casual setting is) and there's nothing wrong with preferring a better standard in that regard.

Godwin's Grammatical Law

For Forks Sake

You've used theliberal as a point of reference??? A site that makes thejournal look like bastions of credibility.

Birneybau

You have referred to The Liberal. No, Leo is barely literate. And a complete nutjob.

joeguevara

Grammar can literally save lives. For example, think of the different outcomes that a simple comma can impact. E.g. ‘let’s eat, Grandpa’ versus ‘Let’s eat Grandpa’.

Gimme A Pound

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

With the level of grammar among the general public, it's a wonder anyone would notice it being bad in the press.

Whole words are being made redundant , "being" being one of them,

"Would" and "will" - omitted at times. "I be", "He luv 2 go der." Looks ****ing dumb.

Guy:Incognito

With the level of grammar among the general public, it's a wonder anyone would notice it being bad in the press.

Whole words are being made redundant , "being" being one of them,