Clare GAA discussion thread

https://twitter.com/ClareSenHurlers/status/1088904715864289287

Generally I would be against putting John Conlon back, early from injury, so soon in the year. Having said that, it's by far the most experimental line up Maloney and O'Connor have played in the league in quite a while. I just notice Shanagher isn't on the 26, I hope its not injury related.

Hoping Deasy and Guilfoyle go well and take their chance, they have the skillset we could really use in the forward line. And so too Diarmuid Ryan, although I would prefer him at left half back instead of Malone. I'm not sure is Malone a half back in the making, I guess we will see. Also, I wish the best for the two McCarthy's on the right side of the backs, especially Aidan. I thought this year was a bit early but there is no doubt he is a serious talent. I think his brother Jason, at corner back is definitely worth a try as he is a tough player.

I'd like to see Rory Hayes and Gary Cooney get game time tomorrow and over the course of the league. I'd expect Ian Galvin and David Fitz will be given an opportunity to stake a claim for a starting spot. Good thing about this year is there is no relegation so there is latitude to test the squad.

Shanagher has gone travelling for the year I think, he won't feature

Big match for the footballers on Sunday, to stay up they'll have to win their home matches but Donegal are probably going to go straight back up so I think we'll struggle.

Shortstop12

As far as I know Shanagher had a problem with his hamstring and is out for 3 or 4 weeks..

sasol

Clareman wrote: »

Shanagher has gone travelling for the year I think, he won't feature

Shanagher did damage to his hamstring. Will be back in a few weeks.

Cunningham is continuing his travels for another 12 months

Gael85

Clare Team v Donegal

1.Robert Eyres
2.Kevin Harnett
3.Cillian Brennan
4.Gordon Kelly
5.Dean Ryan
6.Aaron Fitzgerald
7.Eoghan Collins
8.Gary Brennan
9.Cathal O'Connor
10.Cian O'Dea
11.Jamie Malone
12.Dermot Coughlan
13.Kieran Malone
14.Keelan Sexton
15.David Tubridy

sasol wrote: »

Shanagher did damage to his hamstring. Will be back in a few weeks.

Cunningham is continuing his travels for another 12 months

Not that it's good news that he's injured but it's good news he's around for the year, I thought he was gone.

caddy16

letowski wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ClareSenHurlers/status/1088904715864289287

Generally I would be against putting John Conlon back, early from injury, so soon in the year. Having said that, it's by far the most experimental line up Maloney and O'Connor have played in the league in quite a while. I just notice Shanagher isn't on the 26, I hope its not injury related.

Hoping Deasy and Guilfoyle go well and take their chance, they have the skillset we could really use in the forward line. And so too Diarmuid Ryan, although I would prefer him at left half back instead of Malone. I'm not sure is Malone a half back in the making, I guess we will see. Also, I wish the best for the two McCarthy's on the right side of the backs, especially Aidan. I thought this year was a bit early but there is no doubt he is a serious talent. I think his brother Jason, at corner back is definitely worth a try as he is a tough player.

I'd like to see Rory Hayes and Gary Cooney get game time tomorrow and over the course of the league. I'd expect Ian Galvin and David Fitz will be given an opportunity to stake a claim for a starting spot. Good thing about this year is there is no relegation so there is latitude to test the squad.

Really happy to see management going with that team, loads of lads getting an opportunity to challenge for a spot come summer against what is a strong Tipp team.

LuckyGent88

Didn’t really expect us to win this evening and we just need to move on from that one.
Awful conditions, diabolical ref and thought Tipperary were much hungrier than us.

Keano

Not a good day at the office. Sending off was a joke and who knows what would have happened with him on the field but Tipp wanted it more. Plenty of work to do.

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Didn’t really expect us to win this evening and we just need to move on from that one.
Awful conditions, diabolical ref and thought Tipperary were much hungrier than us.

yeah that was my take at the game also just going watching it back now , tipp in fairness played the conditions better then us in both half's very hard to get worried about a result like that but it would have to be said that 0-2 points from play is terrible shooting regardless how bad the pitch or the weather was

we probably made a bit of a superstar out of paudi maher by bombing high balls in on top of him all night , he was the extra man in a two man full forward line for us , we will seriously need to take a look at how we use this tactic before the end of the league

most of our scores seemed to come from running at tipperary and winning frees , would like us to try and shoot from out the field a little more at times or play a 3 man full forward line and make the other team bring back a sweeper,

our full back line was poor to say the least , dont think anyone covered themselves in glory , david mac was caught for the second goal browne was badly caught out for the first , while jason mccarthy was out of sorts in the first half would like to see david mac come out to half back and someone like cleary move back

bad night at the office but thankfully its still only january

media interviews with both sets of managers after the game

supernova5

That ref shouldn't be let anywhere near an inter county game, an absolute disgrace, he simply doesn't know the rules of hurling

During the week there was clear instruction given that high tackles and bad handpasses were going to be penalised, Clare didn't seem to get the memo, saying that the red card to Kelly was the worst decision I've seen in a long time, I don't think Clare would have won anyway, we've real problems in the full back line against dropping ball

Clare 0-13 0-16 Donegal

spirited enough performance by the footballers going down by 3 points in the end to a better donegal side , the visitors were missing several starting regulars but still showed a strong hand , kicking 11 out of there 16 points from play , they scored 10 out of 11 chances created in the first half with just one wide with clare converting 8/11 chances created in the opening 35 minutes

while the first half was an open affair things got messy in the second , donegal kicking 10 wides most of which from range and ridiculas angles , while down the other end of the field clare created a number of half chances but ultimately out poor decision making was to blame on several occasions

clare did get it back to 1 point late in the game but donegal kicked into gear again in the 8 minutes of injury time played and saw the game out comfortably , form a clare point of view , our best preformers was gary brennan , gordon kelly kevin hartnet and cian o'dea , jamie malone had a particulary por game by his own standerds and probably need a few more games to get up to match fitness , dermot coughlan made his competitive clare debut , started slow but had a better second half , eoin cleary was a huge loss in the forwards though

ryan mchugh was probably man of the match , his work rate is unreal he controlled the game from his half back position setting up attack after attack for the visitors , while jamie brennan, jason mcgee and ciaran thomson caused us huge problems at times

donegal are probably one of the few teams in division 2 that are probably too good for this level and will bounce straight back up to division 1 , for clare with just to home games remaining we will need a road win in ennisklllen or thurles or both , it will be a tough ask to win up in newry against armagh next week as they are flying at the moment , with cork and fermanagh drawing today i think both sides will struggle this year and cant see either side wining any more then two of there remaining 6 games so the magic number for clare is probably 5 to 6 points to avoid the drop , dont think we will get relegated but we wont be in the promotion mix either

clare scorers
David Tubridy (0-06, 0-03f).
Gary Brennan (0-03)
Gavin Cooney (0-01)
Keelan Sexton (0-1,0-1f)
Dean Ryan (0-01)
Dermot Coughlan (0-01)

donegal
Michael Langan (0-04, 0-04f)
Jamie Brennan (0-03).
Jason McGee (0-03);
Ciaran Thompson (0-02),
Eoghan Bán Gallagher (0-01)
Hugh McFadden (0-01)
Niall O'Donnel (0-01)
Caolan McGonagle (0-01, 0-01f);

Gael85

Tony Kelly appeal has been rejected :mad::mad:

brookville

Gael85 wrote: »

Tony Kelly appeal has been rejected :mad::mad:

terrible decision in my opinion but i feel tony is being used as a scapegoat because refs are going to try clamp down on these high/head tackles.Refs need to be consistent with these now if thats the way its going to be although hard to see that being giving as a red during the summer.

This could set a very messy precedent. If Tony Kelly's challenge on Maher is a red from now on, we should technically have multiple red card cases per game. I looked back on it, Kelly's left arm made contact with Mahers shoulder. And players like Pat Horgan are masters will the ball at dipping the shoulder and getting the shoulder/head caught in defenders arms. He got about 3 frees last year against us in the 2nd half of the Munster final.. should all those be red cards now?

At the end of the day, all hurlers are coached when they are taking on their man, to dip and lean in order to get leverage and strength. Contact with the shoulder and head happens regularly throughout a game. Are we calling all these red cards? The old rule was transparent because it was if a player deliberately struck an opponent high, fair enough it was red. But Kelly's was purely incidental, nobody could say he tried to do Maher.

I reckon they will clamp down hard now and ease off come championship , lets hope refs ignore the powers that be and use commonsense from now on

https://twitter.com/ClareSenHurlers/status/1091668597372526592?s=19

Good to see Hayes get an oppertunity tomorrow, I think he can get the other corner back spot opposite Browne. Davy Fitz and Ian Galvin also get their chance to stake a place. Id have Ian as the front runner to the spot left behind by Reidy. In my opinion, Fitz is the most talented half back on the panel. But that doesnt mean I think he is the best, he needs to prove he is a proper back and that he is willing to play more physically and aggressive. He does that I think he should start.

I dont love continuing with Ryan and Malone in these positions. They are not their natural positions and I thought it show last Saturday. Anyway, you cant play Cleary and Malone in the same half back line, both are not good stickmen/distributors of the ball. I dont think Podge is a feasible option at 11 in the summer for me either, Id give Conlon time there or Deasy another go, despite being poor last Saturday.

Great to see Oisin O'Brien back on the panel. Hopefully he can get back to his '16 form, I like sticky corners like him.

There are too many players playing outside of there natural possitions ,

Swap golden with ryan or even guilfoyle , he plays way better as a forward , ryan is a half back or midfielder while malone is no more then a midfielder and as i said in the past move cleary back to full and bring mcinerney out to half back he is far more confortable as an attacking defender then static under a high ball at full back

I like hayes but he can have an off day at times its good hes in though , also good to see aidan mccarthy take to this level so well he always has been a prospect underage he looks to be living up to it at the moment

Footballers travel to newry for there clash with armagh , not over confident on this one to be fair , Armagh are flying at the moment , with players like jamie clarke ,jamar hall rory grugan and the excellent jarleth og burns they are flying lately along with stephan cambell this probably the best forward line we Will meet in this division , niall grimley will give brennen a serious test also

History would suguest there is never much between the sides but i would give the Armagh men the nod here , i think for us the points will come in the last 5 games for us even a draw would be a huge result ,

Only change to the clare side is pearse deloughry is back in goal for the injured robert eyres , we have struggled with goalkeepers and kick out stratigies since deloughry left the panel two years ago. Good to see the cratloe man back

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windy shepard henderson wrote:

There are too many players playing outside of there natural possitions ,

Swap golden with ryan or even guilfoyle , he plays way better as a forward , ryan is a half back or midfielder while malone is no more then a midfielder and as i said in the past move cleary back to full and bring mcinerney out to half back he is far more confortable as an attacking defender then static under a high ball at full

I like hayes but he can have an off day at times its good hes in though , also good to see aidan mccarthy take to this level so well he always has been a prospect underage he looks to be living up to it at the moment

Three moves I would like tried:

1. Diarmuid Ryan at wing back (for obvious reasons

2. Oisin O'Brien, when back to full fitness, tried at full back. Then a half back line of Ryan - McInerney - Fitzgearld. That would give us a tough full back and a tall, strong hurling half back line, similar to what Limerick have. I think these are the type of players teams will look to have a half back in the modern game.

3. Aidan McCarthy to be developed as a midfielder. I know I'm contradicting myself, playing players out of position, but I think he has a skillset that can play midfield. We haven't found a quality midfield partner for Galvin in the 6 years he has been playing for Clare.

caddy16

letowski wrote: »

Three moves I would like tried:

1. Diarmuid Ryan at wing back (for obvious reasons

2. Oisin O'Brien, when back to full fitness, tried at full back. Then a half back line of Ryan - McInerney - Fitzgearld. That would give us a tough full back and a tall, strong hurling half back line, similar to what Limerick have. I think these are the type of players teams will look to have a half back in the modern game.

3. Aidan McCarthy to be developed as a midfielder. I know I'm contradicting myself, playing players out of position, but I think he has a skillset that can play midfield. We haven't found a quality midfield partner for Galvin in the 6 years he has been playing for Clare.

Drop Cleary who has been one of Clare's most consistent backs over the last few years??? Also Fitzgerald is a poor defender.

Figerty

letowski wrote: »

Three moves I would like tried:

1. Diarmuid Ryan at wing back (for obvious reasons

2. Oisin O'Brien, when back to full fitness, tried at full back. Then a half back line of Ryan - McInerney - Fitzgearld. That would give us a tough full back and a tall, strong hurling half back line, similar to what Limerick have. I think these are the type of players teams will look to have a half back in the modern game.

3. Aidan McCarthy to be developed as a midfielder. I know I'm contradicting myself, playing players out of position, but I think he has a skillset that can play midfield. We haven't found a quality midfield partner for Galvin in the 6 years he has been playing for Clare.

Oisin O'Brien got turned very, very easily the last time he played for Clare in the championship.

McInenry is a fine full back, even at club level his distribution is very poor at Centre back.
We have good spine, just get the half back line, including Cleary to attack and break through Mid-field now and again (like Limerick) to change the emphasis from hand and short passing out of defense.

Reputable Rog

Figerty wrote: »

Oisin O'Brien got turned very, very easily the last time he played for Clare in the championship.
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He wasn't fully fit and was rushed back to play.

will get to the hurling in a minute , but excellent stuff from david tubridy in newry to come back from 4 points down in injury time to snatch a draw , i didnt expect us to get anything from our first two games so it really is a huge result , first time i ever heard of a player score 1-1 from sideline balls

diarmuid coughlan only lasted 12 minutes into his second intercounty game after picking up a suspected broken ankle which could have him out for a while , lets hope its not as serious as that he is an excellent talent

cathal o connor also got sent off so he will miss next weeks game at home to cork

clare scorers
David Tubridy 1-7 (0-2f, 1-1sl 0-1m),
James Morgan OG 1-0,
Dale Masterson, 0-1
Kieran Malone 0-1
Gordon Kelly 0-1

clare 2-20 1-22 kilkenny

a fussy referee yes but we are doing ourselves no favors by playing into the hands of these types of officials , 1-11 of kilkennys 1-22 came from placed balls , we play too much on the edge especially in the scoring zone

i taught diarmuid ryan , colm galvin and shane golden had excellent games while at this moment in time i would say conor cleary is probably our best defender

out of the other newcomers on to the panel , rory hayes had a solid afternoon while at the other end colin guilfoyle worked hard with limited supply while gary cooney took his score well when he came on he probably squandered a goal chance shortly after his introduction

next up is cork in pairc ui chaoimh on saturday week , we probably will need to work on the first touch between now and then and really need to sort out the discipline

clare scorers
Peter Duggan 0-6 (4f, 1’65);
John Conlon 1-1;
Podge Collins 1-0;
Colm Galvin, 0-3
Diarmuid Ryan 0-3
Ian Galvin, 0-2
Shane Golden 0-2
Colin Guilfoyle, 0-1
Gary Cooney, 0-1
Niall Deasy (f) 0-1

kilkenny
Kevin Kelly 1-11 (1-11f);
Ger Aylward 0-3;
James Maher, 0-2
Billy Ryan 0-2
Conor Delaney, 0-1
Conor Fogarty, 0-1
John Donnelly, 0-1
Padraig Walsh 0-1