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Should social welfare Communion allowance be reinstated?

Prince William

A social welfare payment of €250 used to be available to unemployed people who had a child doing their first communion but it was cut 66% in 2012 and completely abolished in 2013 because of the recession. Now the the economy has improved, I think the payment should be reinstated so that disadvantaged people won't have to resort to moneylenders

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lbc2019

Or they could cut their cloth according to their measure. Or ask the church- it’s their gig

BattleCorp

Many retailers sell first communion dresses very very cheap.

That's all that's needed for girls obviously. The lads are even easier to dress.

No need for an allowance for bouncy castles.

NIMAN

Absolutely not.

Its a joke now at this stage, with dresses of hundreds of euro, huge family meals, entertainers, bouncy castles etc.

They are like mini weddings now. If parents want to do all that, fair play, but don't ask the tax payers to subsidise it for you.

I personally believe the kids should make it in their school uniform.

oLoonatic

This thread wont end well

LorelaiG

No if people want their child to make their communion then there are lovely suits and dressed for buttons in Dunnes Debenhams etc in the November December time before they're due for communion.

ayux4rj6zql2ph

The social welfare need to cut back on their expenditure not increase it.

Fiftyfilthy

Absolutely not

Apart from communion and confirmation 99% never set foot in a church afterwards

All this lavish spending to resemble a traveller wedding is tasteless

Surely it’s the actual communion that is important and not the garish and hideous expenditure that people feel obligated to do

angeldelight

Absolutely not. There is no need for the State to be subsidising any religious ceremony

Elmo

No. I think even people who are very religious don't agree with that payment. Your talking about The Catholic Church and The Church of Ireland only AFAIK.

Give the 250 as part of a hamper for New Born Babies to start them off on the right foot.

randd1

Prince William wrote: »

A social welfare payment of €250 used to be available to unemployed people who had a child doing their first communion but it was cut 66% in 2012 and completely abolished in 2013 because of the recession. Now the the economy has improved, I think the payment should be reinstated so that disadvantaged people won't have to resort to moneylenders

Absolutely not. Tax payer money should never be used for something unless it's absolutely necessary.

And a first communion is not a necessity, its a vanity for most.

Never mind the fact that the State should have no input into religious affairs, and vice versa.

km991148

A special payment from the state to allow people to do some voluntary religious ceremony?

Would we have the same for bar mitzvah?

brevity

Bait.

McMurphy

Dole bashing and church bashing thread all rolled into one.

Genius.

Odhinn

Prince William wrote: »

A social welfare payment of €250 used to be available to unemployed people who had a child doing their first communion but it was cut 66% in 2012 and completely abolished in 2013 because of the recession. Now the the economy has improved, I think the payment should be reinstated so that disadvantaged people won't have to resort to moneylenders

If the state gives out cash specifically for one religions ceremonies you can be sure they're a court case away from having to fork out for anothers.

zell12

N O

Dakotabigone

The social welfare will have to at the very least give the working person free ky jelly.

malinheader

What's wrong with making it in your school uniform.

TeaBagMania

I thought there was supposed to be a separation between church and state?

eviltwin

Accidentally voted yes. Of course it should not be reinstated, there are plenty of affordable options out there.

eviltwin

TeaBagMania wrote: »

I thought there was supposed to be a separation between church and state?

Not in Ireland

Keyzer

Not a fúcking chance OP - not a chance.

We have enough spongers and entitled creaming off the state i.e. the tax payer.

If you dont have a job and you can't afford a €300 dress for your kid then you should not be subsidised - cut your cloth.

Dakotabigone

Keyzer wrote: »

Not a fúcking chance OP - not a chance.

We have enough spongers and entitled creaming off the state i.e. the tax payer.

If you dont have a job and you can't afford a €300 dress for your kid then you should not be subsidised - cut your cloth.

You can buy a dress for a lot less than €300.

Deebles McBeebles

I say yes, as long as they bring in another one for christening and confirmation.

And then one for your 18th, 21st and 30th. Hopefully they backdate it so I can claim.

[Deleted User]

Only if they provide free spaghetti for induction in to Pastafarianism

Atlantic Dawn

Did we actually have €250 of a grant for communion for the unemployed? Please tell me someone is taking the piss.

Prince William

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Did we actually have €250 of a grant for communion for the unemployed? Please tell me someone is taking the piss.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/thousands-of-families-hit-as-first-communion-grant-axed-29188705.html

Atlantic Dawn

Prince William wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/thousands-of-families-hit-as-first-communion-grant-axed-29188705.html

I'm shocked.

corner of hells

NIMAN wrote: »

Absolutely not.

Its a joke now at this stage, with dresses of hundreds of euro, huge family meals, entertainers, bouncy castles etc.

They are like mini weddings now. If parents want to do all that, fair play, but don't ask the tax payers to subsidise it for you.

I personally believe the kids should make it in their school uniform.

My twins , Chardonnay and Chantelle , are making thier communion this year and I intend having a horse drawn carriage with 16 ponies to bring them to church... I demand the social pay for it.

theteal

oLoonatic wrote: »

This thread wont end well

Au contraire, I think it may go the very way the OP intends. . .

Mundo7976

A: The church has enough of its own money to be able to afford some leeway towards disadvantaged people.
B: Sure why dont we subsidise sky and mobiles and nights out etc
C: ...null