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John Connors is a bit of a wanker

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Buford T Justice

Pffft, average singer at best.

Watch and see, she'll probably win it for fear of offending anyone or claims of discrimination.

freshpopcorn

His aunt was on Ireland's Got Talent tonight!

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suicide_circus wrote: »

It is the fault of the state in so far as these people are little better than wards of the state -

Plenty of them literally are Wards depending on the state :pac:

Mad_maxx

The Satanist wrote: »

You'd have to wonder why newspapers are so scared of people who can't ****in read.

Journalists and media types (beit on radio or TV) broadcast their views and opinions to their fellow media tribe members

Hence all the otherwise farcical outrage response to what Peter Casey said in October

They were outraged because their fellow media creatures expected it of them

corks finest

List the plot

Ronin247

It is just laying the framework for the inevitable lawsuits that will follow. There will be enough legal action against the council, all on the free legal aid boss, to feed an army of lawyers.

Trauma, shock, personal injuries, bereavement, smoke inhalation and everything else they can think of. There will probably turn out to have been 3000 travellers on the site that night and none of them will ever be able to work again..( again ha ha ha)

Every lawyer that submits a claim should be made live with them for 3 months.

Dr_serious2

You can blame the Travellers all you want (and they do deserve plenty of blame) but they have been enabled at every turn by our cowardly politicians. Apart from Peter Casey, how often have you heard a politician mention the elephant in the room? (I don't mean John Connors)

We have thrown money at them for generations and we continue to scrabble around apologising to then for every problem of their own making. Solidarity, Sinn Fein and Labour are particularly sickening in their support of a community that will not accept any responsibility for their own issues. The governing parties are also silent in their condemnation.

malinheader

Lillyfae wrote: »

Ya but.... this...

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/europe-finds-ireland-in-breach-of-traveller-rights-in-cases-of-evictions-899753.html

Why would you have to consult trespassers???

Was dumbfounded until I seen European court mentioned. Tell Europe to fcuk off on this matter.

Effects

Prince William wrote: »

Is John Connors drawing the Dole?

I'd imagine he's registered as self employed.

tayto lover

Lillyfae wrote: »

Ya but.... this...

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/europe-finds-ireland-in-breach-of-traveller-rights-in-cases-of-evictions-899753.html

Why would you have to consult trespassers???

What’s the betting this appears as an item on RTÉ 6 o’clock news?
Yet they refuse to identify them in crime and drugs wars all over the country or to mention why there are so many Travellers in prison.

NIMAN

But as long as they can say what they want unchallenged by our media and TV presenters, they will never stop.

maxwell smart

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Cos culture, boss

And the Dags, they needs their exercise while the lads absolutely don't case out various farmers properties.

SEPT 23 1989

Lillyfae wrote: »

Ya but.... this...

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/europe-finds-ireland-in-breach-of-traveller-rights-in-cases-of-evictions-899753.html

Why would you have to consult trespassers???

It would make you puke

kildare lad

Funnily enough he was very quiet the other week , when there was 60 garda at a funeral to stop people killing each other,

Dozens of gardaí were deployed to Longford town on Monday amid concerns of possible disturbances at the funeral of the matriarch of a large Traveller family.
Several officers from the Garda Regional Support Unit (RSU) were drafted into the county to police the funeral of 93-year-old Maureen Stokes.
The operation followed several violent incidents in the previous 24 hours during which a man was shot and another man sustained serious injuries in a suspected hatchet attack in Galway following the removal of Mrs Stokes. In a third incident, another man was the victim of a suspected acid attack.
The incidents are being linked to an ongoing feud between two rival Traveller factions.
They followed violent scenes almost 12 months earlier when a man was left fighting for his life in hospital in the aftermath of a car ramming incident in Ballymahon. The victim was stabbed in that incident, which took place shortly after a religious ceremony .

He's a wanker of the highest order. Poor me and my traveller people , we never done nothing to no one. The people who broke into aldi last year during the snowstorm, were only robbing off the big corporations to feed there families..lol, The more he talks and tweets the dumber he sounds.

punisher5112

The Satanist wrote: »

You'd have to wonder why newspapers are so scared of people who can't ****in read.

Give that man a can of coke......

The Satanist

You'd have to wonder why newspapers are so scared of people who can't ****in read.

The_Kew_Tour

freshpopcorn wrote: »

The one thing that puzzled me about the Carrickmines fire is they often speak about over crowding at the site and it being dangerous but they decided to invite another family to stay that night.

That's the Racist Councils fault now to be fair. I think.

Hector Savage

Omackeral wrote: »

Sure f*ck personal responsibility.

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edit - thats for the tweet by John Connors btw, not Omackeral's comment!

Guy:Incognito

seamus wrote: »

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I wouldn't be surprised if this weekend's Sunday Independent has a large four-page report on it.

That no one will read but will continue to pass off horse**** as fact anyway.........

seamus

suicide_circus wrote: »

this is an interesting observation.

why no detailed coverage of the causes as you outlined in your post? this is a widely publicised tragedy with much outpouring of grief and some truly appalling accusations being directed at employees of the state, accusations that would certainly warrant a tribunal and prosecutions.

I think it would be unfair of me to jump to conclusions. It may very well be that the media in general don't go into the deep detail of these matters in the course of normal reporting.

It may be the case that such detail is left for longer pieces rather than the 50 lines they need to write for their website.

So to assume that they're not going into the detail here because it's a traveller case, would be to claim that in other cases they *do* go into detail. Which is not a claim I can substantiate. Off the top of head, I can't remember reading any basic reports that go into the heavy details.

I wouldn't be surprised if this weekend's Sunday Independent has a large four-page report on it.

suicide_circus

seamus wrote: »

- and to be fair the media aren't going into the nitty-gritty

this is an interesting observation.

why no detailed coverage of the causes as you outlined in your post? this is a widely publicised tragedy with much outpouring of grief and some truly appalling accusations being directed at employees of the state, accusations that would certainly warrant a tribunal and prosecutions.

sbsquarepants

Lillyfae wrote: »

Why would you have to consult trespassers???

Cos culture, boss

Lillyfae

Ya but.... this...

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/europe-finds-ireland-in-breach-of-traveller-rights-in-cases-of-evictions-899753.html

Why would you have to consult trespassers???

seamus

Larbre34 wrote: »

It was breezed over in the reporting of the inquest that some residents of the Carrickmines site offered testimony that County Council electricians had been on site the day before the fire. No such thing happened and that was a disgusting attempt to abdicate, deflect and implicate.

For those who haven't really been following this - and to be fair the media aren't going into the nitty-gritty - it was found that the fire was caused by a chip pan having been left on the hob at full blast, which then went on fire.

The adults present at the time were all sleeping and had varying amounts of alcohol in their systems, along with varying amount of benzos and sleeping pills. Some adults had only small amounts, others had large amounts. But they all had drink and/or drugs onboard.

This would have not only slowed their reaction times in a fire, but obviously would have affected their decision making abilities.

Other confounding factors were that the fire brigade couldn't use the fire hydrants closest to the site because they had been tampered with and had fittings stolen from them, so they had to connect to a hydrant 50m away from the site.

This was a tragedy, but one which no amount of state assistance could have prevented.

It's probably time to ban the sale or promotion of chip pans designed for use on a hob, but that's not going to stop people sticking oil in a pot and cooking chips.

NIMAN wrote: »

Doesn't matter if there were CC electricians on site the day before. Irrelevant.

It wasn't an electrical fire, it was a chip pan fire caused by human error/neglect.

The point is that a string of travellers were happy to make completely false official reports in order to blame the state (which is a representative of the settled community) for the deaths. Very reminiscent of the kind of thing that used to happen when a black man in the US was accused of a crime; you'd have all sorts of "eyewitnesses" pop up and declare they saw him when he didn't do it at all.

It's time for the traveller community to look in the mirror and realise that they have a racism problem of their own; they hate settled people.

Deebles McBeebles

We should stick a call out video up on youtube and see how Johnny boy responds.

BattleCorp

Can someone change the thread title. The words 'bit of a' should be replaced with the word 'total'.

NIMAN

Larbre34 wrote: »

It was breezed over in the reporting of the inquest that some residents of the Carrickmines site offered testimony that County Council electricians had been on site the day before the fire. No such thing happened and that was a disgusting attempt to abdicate, deflect and implicate.

Doesn't matter if there were CC electricians on site the day before. Irrelevant.

It wasn't an electrical fire, it was a chip pan fire caused by human error/neglect.

suicide_circus

naughtb4 wrote: »

The state didn't force them retain there culture

The state didn't force them into marrying young

The state didn't force them to leave school early

The state didn't force them to live in a halting site

The state didn't force them to get drunk or stoned

The state didn't force them to want chips

yep all true. however the state is essentially acting in loco parentis - unconditional entitlements with no dependant responsibilities - the social contract has to be a two sided affair or else it is just foster care for adults. People like John Connors do not have the slightest notion of this.

RabbleRouser2k

Amber Icy Machinist wrote: »

Would love if DL-R council sued the prick for defamation.

Aren't the guards already possibly suing him cos of crap he said on the Late Late show about armed guards being ex-paramilitaries?

Some deluded idiot he is.

ThunbergsAreGo

suicide_circus wrote: »

freshpopcorn wrote: »

The one thing that puzzled me about the Carrickmines fire is they often speak about over crowding at the site and it being dangerous but they decided to invite another family to stay that night.

don't bother looking for common sense or consistency on this subject.

It is the fault of the state in so far as these people are little better than wards of the state - whole families in what amounts to state foster care as they are incapable of supporting themselves or apparently thinking for themselves beyond their entitlements.

The state didn't force them retain there culture

The state didn't force them into marrying young

The state didn't force them to leave school early

The state didn't force them to live in a halting site

The state didn't force them to get drunk or stoned

The state didn't force them to want chips