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Calls for Graham Linehan to be removed from Prime Debate on transgender issues!

freshpopcorn

Prime Time are airing a special about transgender issues on Tuesday night at 21:35. I believe it mainly involves young people but will also show older people who have transitioned.
Graham Linehan is due to appear on this but a petition has being started to have him removed. There was an article on the matter on an Irish newspaper website but it has being removed.
Where do people stand on this matter?

Personally I can see both sides on the matter when it comes to kids/teenagers transitioning and how it may effect them in the long term since it's such a big change to make but I'm no expert on the matter.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/opposition-to-father-ted-creator-graham-linehan-being-on-tv-transgender-debate-skz8mp2rb

https://www.change.org/p/donogh-diamond-rte-to-remove-graham-linehan-piece-from-upcoming-prime-time-show-on-transgender-issues

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freshpopcorn

So, is anybody watching this?

branie2

I am

donkeykong5

freshpopcorn wrote: »

So, is anybody watching this?

Yeah. Theres some one on who doesn't identify as a man or a woman. ???

SEPT 23 1989

This is off the wall stuff try and help fix their minds first before they mess with their bodies permanently

FrancieBrady

Youse can stop 'calling'...too late.

statesaver

Autism, there ya go

Utopia Parkway

Trying to explain all this to the parents is most amusing.

“And what the feck is a non-binary?”

Jeff2

freshpopcorn wrote: »

So, is anybody watching this?

Yes, the fact https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_Institute

Was mentioned will kick off conspiracy.

Uncharted

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Yeah. Theres some one on who doesn't identify as a man or a woman. ???

That's neither here nor there. That person is an adult. The key word being ADULT. Free to do as they wish and the best of luck to them.

My issue is kids having gender reassignment.
That's just absolutely crazy.

freshpopcorn

I might have misunderstood the mother from Wexford but she said something along the lines of she asked her kid was he gay around the end of primary school because he was a little different.
I was a little different and had lots of different likes/interests at that age compared to my peers but my mother never asked me was I gay.

Sonic Youth

Never thought I'd be cheering on Graham Linehan. 'Enemy of my enemy' and all that I suppose.

donkeykong5

VeryTerry wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Niall boylan is one of the few in the media who isn't terrified of the pcbrigade.

Of course he's not. He makes his living riling up the slow lads in class.

Not frightened to speak his mind. Unusual in Ireland these days.

c montgomery

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Yeah. Theres some one on who doesn't identify as a man or a woman. ???

Miriam?

Atlantic Dawn

Why do we not let someone vote until they are 18 yet are facilitating these life changing decisions by those under 18?

statesaver

Uncharted wrote: »

That's neither here nor there. That person is an adult. The key word being ADULT. Free to do as they wish and the best of luck to them.

They are free to do whatever they want as long I don’t ( tax payer ) have to pay for it.

Someone ( adult ) wants to transition, good. Pay for it yourself.

Atlantic Dawn

statesaver wrote: »

Someone ( adult ) wants to transition, good. Pay for it yourself.

And also have them pay for any additional infrastructure they want like 3rd, 4th, 5th toilet designations.

Mad_maxx

I think it's logical that a miniscule number of people genuinely need a sex change and its not like its an entirely new phenomenon, it's become such a trendy cause however these days that it's not a stretch to imagine many make the leap from typical teen confusion to the all out decision to switch genders, when you add in the PC loons who relish mass gender identity confusion, your left with a lot of disastrous decisions by young vulnerable people

VeryTerry

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Not frightened to speak his mind. Unusual in Ireland these days.

Is it? There's far more educated people with better thought out opinions alright.

donkeykong5

Same old. Same old. Put Graham back on.

Atlantic Dawn

This finishes at 10.15, could be an ad break after this segment, Graham might get about 5 minutes worth.

batgoat

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why do we not let someone vote until they are 18 yet are facilitating these life changing decisions by those under 18?

You can make medical decisions from age 16..

Uncharted

statesaver wrote: »

They are free to do whatever they want as long I don’t ( tax payer ) have to pay for it.

Someone ( adult ) wants to transition, good. Pay for it yourself.

100% agreed.

SEPT 23 1989

the ones speaking sense in this show are really shining through

Vincent Vega

Hmm. What a difficult topic.

I'm all for self determination, but as shown in the Louis Theroux documentary it can be very difficult to determine whose will is behind the desire for change where children are involved.
Oftentimes you'll see a parent behind the push, acting with themselves in mind.

Then again, I can understand many of the reasons presented by those who have made the transition, as to why it would have been better to start the process sooner.

Marengo

Linehan speaking a lot of sense about trans 'women' in sport having major advantages.

[Deleted User]

batgoat wrote: »

You can make medical decisions from age 16..

Indeed, but I dont want to be sitting here in a decade or two with a primetime special on, with women / men asking why was I allowed remove my perfectly healthy reproductive organs? and Im now on medicine for life?

Utopia Parkway

Marengo wrote: »

Linehan speaking a lot of sense about trans 'women' in sport having major advantages.

No idea how that’s allowed given men’s inherent physical advantages. And some of these are contact sports.

donkeykong5

Heather making very good point about the changing rooms. Kinda scary actually.

VeryTerry

This James Caspian lad can't be trusted anyway. He just let his dog **** on the beach and pegged it on national TV.

Uncharted

batgoat wrote: »

You can make medical decisions from age 16..

It's more complex than an ingrown toenail or freezing off a wart though.

Monumental implications for a lifetime,decided upon by a teenager?????

An utter recipe for disaster.