ceadaoin. wrote: » The numbers that say 60-90% of children who identify as transgender are not in fact trangender as adults. Setting children on a path of hormones and surgery, rather than the watchful waiting approach previously favoured, is a recipe for disasterhttp://www.sexologytoday.org/2016/01/do-trans-kids-stay-trans-when-they-grow_99.html?m=1
We recognize that numerous follow-up studies ofgender-nonconforming children have been reportedsince the mid-20th century (e.g., Green, 1987; Money& Russo, 1979; Zucker & Bradley, 1995; Zuger, 1984).In that era, most research in the domain focused onfeminine expression among children assigned male atbirth, with the implicit or explicit objective of prevent-ing homosexuality or transsexualism.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Maybe a psychiatrist or psychologist or endocrinologist who has spent a decade or two dealing with transgender people - like Prof Donal O'Shea maybe? Or maybe somebody who has done a Masters and a PhD on the topic, and has a few years experience dealing with people? Or maybe experts by experience, people who have been through the process (or indeed not through the process) themselves and can speak to their own experience?
AndrewJRenko wrote: » There is no suggestion about 'censoring his views'. But giving him a national audience of people, many of whom will be new to the topic when he has no expertise or experience is insane. They might as well pick a random poster from this thread and stick them on the air.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Graham Linehan is to trans issues what Jenny McCarthy is to vaccines. He has nothing solid to base his feelings on. The fact that a charity dedicated to providing counselling for trans children was delayed from getting funding because of his ignorant mouth is all you need to know about how dangerous it is to give uneducated inexperienced people the same platform as experts and people with experience. When you put people on the same platform, viewers see them as equally knowledgable.
Cockford Ollie wrote: » People complain saying Graham Lenihan has no expertise on the topic so therefore should not have an opinion. They will be interviewing trans people. What qualified expertise do they have? If you get treatment for a heart condition, like a coronary artery bypass, do you become a qualified surgeon?
yosser hughes wrote: » You have a very simplistic grasp of the issues and indeed the consequenceshttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/15/call-lian-child-killer-ian-huntley-has-told-inmates-call-feminine/
batgoat wrote: » Eh, if he has the potential to negatively impact the mental health of the transgender community then giving him a platform to attack a vulnerable with uninformed dross is pretty irresponsible of RTE.
Captain Obvious wrote: » The fact you just linked a story about a trans person without any explanation point or explanation would indicate that it's your view that's simplistic. Are you arguing a slippery slope type thing? Do ou believe that because some people might take advantage of trans friendly laws that we shouldn't make laws that are trans friendly? No, you become experienced in the matter.
Captain Obvious wrote: » The fact you just linked a story about a trans person without any explanation point or explanation would indicate that it's your view that's simplistic. Are you arguing a slippery slope type thing? Do ou believe that because some people might take advantage of trans friendly laws that we shouldn't make laws that are trans friendly.
spoonerhead wrote: » Getting a bit heated, about a subject that effects less than 1% of people. But when our buses get privatised and people can’t get to work, it’s a deafening silence.... Graham gave his opinion, he’s entitled to it. Please stop referring to people as the ‘liberal left’ if they’re trying to remove someone from a television programme, they’re just kids who’ve no true idea of what a discussion looks like. Anyways was Ronan Mullen caught in the Galway snow as he’s the go to RTÉ man to discuss a topic with little basis just an opinion?
Galwayguy35 wrote: » Typical reaction from the liberal left, if they don't like an opinion instead of debating the issue with them just try and get the person removed form the programme.
Cockford Ollie wrote: » My mental health health is being damaged by transgender community. They want to force onto me that I'm supposed to identify them as a gender of their choosing. Also didn't you get the memo, gender dysphoria is not a mental health issue. Can some leftist moderator please ban this offensive ignorant poster please.
ceadaoin. wrote: » It's not "might" though, it's that many people have and will take advantage. It's what predators do, look for weaknesses and loopholes to exploit . It would be nice to spare a thought for the people who may be effected by such laws, especially vulnerable people such as prisoners or abuse victims. There has to be a better solution that will accommodate everyone. Wanting to talk about these things and discuss issues that have arisen as a result is not hate.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Yes. Not if it runs over the rights of biological women. Thais isn’t a minor thing either. That guy being in a prison makes the entire prison space more dangerous for women.
batgoat wrote: » I'm saying people being dickheads has a negative impact upon anyone. Mental health issues are huge in LGBTQ community, generally because people are intolerant bigoted dickheads. Has that cleared everything up for you?
Captain Obvious wrote: » So you don't think trans people should be recognised under their new gender in case a sexual predator tries to use that system to do what exactly? What danger would they pose that they wouldn't otherwise? Can you explain how granting rights to trans women runs over the rights of biological women? Have you got any stats on how many trans women have been involved in attacks against other women in prisons? You seem to consider it a major issue but I've only ever heard of one case myself.
Cockford Ollie wrote: Ah, condescension. The go to weapon for your kind.
ceadaoin. wrote: » Eh...surely even one case is too many? (And I've heard of at least 3 and another in Scotland where female prison guards were forced to do strip searches on a male who identifies as a woman) Women in prison should not be locked up with a male who has convictions for raping and assaulting women �� or any male for that matter.
VeryTerry wrote: » donkeykong5 wrote: » Heard Graham linehan on the niall boylan show today. Sounded fine to me. Will definitely tune in tonight. Going on the Niall Boylan show only cements my opinion that he's an idiot.
donkeykong5 wrote: » Heard Graham linehan on the niall boylan show today. Sounded fine to me. Will definitely tune in tonight.
Cockford Ollie wrote: » Ah, condescension. The go to weapon for your kind.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Weaker than any other science. Not a science in fact. Subject to fads and political, or pharmaceutical company, influence.
Captain Obvious wrote: » But your presumption is that these people would not have been equally violent in a mens prison.
batgoat wrote: » If you're gonna belittle a person's mental health then I have very little time for you.
donkeykong5 wrote: » Niall boylan is one of the few in the media who isn't terrified of the pcbrigade.
