SimonTemplar wrote: » Let's say Corbyn is ousted and is replaced with a pro-2nd ref leader. How can that person trigger a GE? It doesn't matter who the Labour leader is, after winning the vote of no confidence, TM can't be forced by Labour to call a GE.
Tell me how wrote: » Labour back benchers have enough of Corbyn's incompetence and oust him with a mandate to put a/the deal to the people in the form of a referendum after a GE.
Water John wrote: » There are other voices to listen to besides the lovely list that you mention. Starmer, Soubry, Umunna, Grieve in politics. For commentary Abell, Dunt, Conneelly.
SimonTemplar wrote: » Is there any valid path to a 2nd ref at this stage?
abff wrote: » Sir John Redwood, a Conservative MP, was being interviewed alongside a Labour MP, Chuka Umanna, who pointed out the misinformation that was trotted out about NHS funding, etc. in the run up to the Brexit vote. The parting shot from Sir John was that "what solves it is parliament growing up, accepting the verdict of the British people and just doing it."
Nody wrote: » Amprodude wrote: » What is this I see in the news with the European commissioner saying that if there is no deal its obvious there will have to be hard border. The Irish government won't agree to this. what happens then after this? Will there be a reunification vote? In North and South of Ireland? The Irish government has know this would always be the case if there is no deal and they will implement it accordingly and it has been a well known fact since day 1 for people who bothered to check the basic understanding of how EU operates. There's a reason why Ireland pushed so hard for the backstop to be in the requirements because if not it would be a hard border by default in the agreement.
Amprodude wrote: » What is this I see in the news with the European commissioner saying that if there is no deal its obvious there will have to be hard border. The Irish government won't agree to this. what happens then after this? Will there be a reunification vote? In North and South of Ireland?
Captain Obvious wrote: » Irish government won't have a choice. I would have thought everyone understood this was inevitable with no deal.
Hurrache wrote: » Passenger ferry trips are being cancelled because of it. Following on from P&O moving their fleet to a Cypriot flag, this was announcedhttps://twitter.com/cliodiaspora/status/1087756976891875328
Larbre34 wrote: » James Dyson is moving the Dyson Corporation Head Office and its tax residency to Singapore. The company is quoted as saying its "nothing to do with Brexit"
trellheim wrote: » Some mad odds on Food rationing
This is an initiative from the Department of Transport to help ensure critical goods are still able to be transported safely and swiftly in the event of a no-deal Brexit. We were approached by the Department for Transport as a trusted and reliable ferry operator to see if we could assist with this initiative and have since agreed to play our part. The contract guarantees space on some of our ships and Channel routes for the delivery of critical goods post-Brexit, like medicines. It has been described as a kind of insurance, or safety net, to help ensure the smooth transit of these critical goods in the event of a no-deal Brexit after the 29th March.
Quin_Dub wrote: » ##Mod Note## Borderhopper - You're going to have to make some reference to a news report or something around these updates.. (potentially) Random hearsay is not really up to standard for this forum.. Thanks
The following Tuesdays – February 12 and 26, as well as March 5, 12, 19 and 26 – are being lined up for Brexit debates by Dominic Grieve, the Tory former attorney general. This amendment, which has been coordinated with Cooper, is even more important (see amendment f) on item 112). The idea is that each Tuesday the government will lose the right to determine what is discussed. There will instead be up to six and a half hours of debate, during which MPs will be able to propose any amendments. At the end of the day, the Speaker will choose which amendments to vote on.
At end, add “and orders that on 12 and 26 February and 5, 12, 19 and 26 March 2019— (a) Standing Order No. 14(1) which provides that government business shall have precedence at every sitting save as provided in that order) shall not apply; (b) a Motion in the name of the Chairman of Ways and Means “That this House has considered the United Kingdom’s departure from, and future relationship with, the European Union” shall stand as the first item of business; (c) Standing Order No. 24B (Amendments to motions to consider specified matters) shall not apply to such motions; (d) Proceedings on the motion may continue for up to six and a half hours after its commencement, though opposed, and shall not be interrupted at the moment of interruption; and Standing Order No. 41A (Deferred divisions) will not apply; and 52 Tuesday 22 January 2019 OP No.236: Part 2 B. Remaining Orders and Notices (e) at the conclusion of those proceedings, the Speaker shall put the questions necessary to dispose of proceedings on the motion, which shall include the questions on any amendments selected by the Speaker, which may then be moved
robinph wrote: » It's probably a self selecting group of similarly minded people that you are mixing with then, and possibly also a slightly more knowledgeable bunch regarding "these islands" than other parts of the UK due to the obvious differences regarding football teams and who supports which one. The rest of the UK are mostly ignorant/ don't care/ confused by the whole thing, but there are plenty of people from NI in my circles that would be identifying as all variations of NI/ British/ Irish and multiple of at the same time in no particular order.
