dregin wrote: » Any of ye made a submission to Dublin City Council opposing a planning application? Some lunatic has an application for a 6 story block of (mostly) single bed, buy to let apartments about 50m away from us. The artist's impression is of a flat panelled building with loads of glass, nothing like the surrounding red brick buildings. They've also had a conservation assessment done which says that the 200+ year old building on the site can be demolished as long as photos are taken. It's the last of a group of buildings that gave the area its original name. A meeting on Sunday saw a few hundred residents attend, but we're very worried that we're going to have this crap lumped on us in the not to distant future.Anyone have any advice? I'm hoping to get a submission together today.
sydthebeat wrote: » my best piece of advice would be to pool together as a resident group, hire a planning consultant and let them prepare the submission on your behalf. everyone can still sign the submission so it will have weight of numbers, but it will be based on purely planning issues lay people who send in submissions usually use intangible or vexatious arguments such as "loss of value" " loss of views" etc. keep the arguments purely planning related, let the consultant thrawl through the various applicable development plans to find policys that arent met or are contravened.
dregin wrote: » 5 different residents' associations are pooling their resources on this one and employing planning experts. I just wanted to get something in so that I can still take part in the process beyond the last date for submissions.
Zzippy wrote: » Post up a link to the planning app there so we can see what you're talking about...
dregin wrote: » http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=4702/18&theTabNo=1&backURL=%3Ca%20href=wphappcriteria.display?paSearchKey=4076806%3ESearch%20Criteria%3C/a%3E%20%3E%20%3Ca%20href=%27wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=4779155%26StartIndex=1%26SortOrder=APNID:DESC%26DispResultsAs=WPHAPPSEARCHRES%26BackURL=%3Ca%20href=wphappcriteria.display?paSearchKey=4076806%3ESearch%20Criteria%3C/a%3E%27%3ESearch%20Results%3C/a%3E
swiwi_ wrote: » Surely in Ireland the single most important thing is to have the local TD on your side, no...?
Buer wrote: » Call me cynical but I suspect in an area with a high voter turn out, there will be no shortage of local politicians already offering their services.
dregin wrote: » There were senators wnd councillors at the meeting. TD's would be loathe to go near it in the middle of a housing crisis. People aren't against sustainable housing. 55 single bed buy to lets isn't sustainable anything.
Squidgy Black wrote: » dregin wrote: » There were senators wnd councillors at the meeting. TD's would be loathe to go near it in the middle of a housing crisis. People aren't against sustainable housing. 55 single bed buy to lets isn't sustainable anything. You'd be surprised, Aodhan O'Riordan and Finian McGrath lodged complaints against a development on Griffith avenue recently.
dregin wrote: » swiwi_ wrote: » Surely in Ireland the single most important thing is to have the local TD on your side, no...? There were senators and councillors at the meeting. TD's would be loathe to go near it in the middle of a housing crisis. People aren't against sustainable housing. 55 single bed buy to lets isn't sustainable anything.
troyzer wrote: » Single bet lets are exactly what's needed at the moment.
Zzippy wrote: » They may be needed but having a whole development of them is not desirable. It's just cramming as many units in as possible to maximise revenue. We need sustainable communities with a mix of young people, families and older people, not wholesale single bed developments that will be rented to students and young workers who go out 3 nights a week and go home at the weekend.
Zzippy wrote: » troyzer wrote: » Single bet lets are exactly what's needed at the moment. They may be needed but having a whole development of them is not desirable. It's just cramming as many units in as possible to maximise revenue. We need sustainable communities with a mix of young people, families and older people, not wholesale single bed developments that will be rented to students and young workers who go out 3 nights a week and go home at the weekend.
troyzer wrote: » Single bed lets are not just needed for students or young people. There is a huge amount of older single people who either have to or choose to live on their own but often find themselves competing with couples or families. I'm not too sad about the demise of the bedsit but it did cater to a lot of people, particularly men in their 40s+.
Buer wrote: » To play devil's advocate (and there have been large developments rejected in my own area due to group objections), I would see any sort of development as being a positive in terms of alleviating the housing crisis. Terenure has a lot of families...it also has a lot of elderly people who are living in family homes which are worth significant sums. Whilst I don't think there would be a massive appetite for it, I have no doubt that some older people would much rather a small, manageable apartment near all the amenities rather than a larger property with all associated upkeep. It's easy for me to say now but, in 30 years, I would be very open to downsizing from my house and garden for a nice apartment with a common outdoor area. My biggest bugbear with new developments is the lack of infratructure that is being introduced alongside the additional housing. You can't dump hundreds of properties into a densely populated area without improving the transport links at the very least.
dregin wrote: » Compare Rathmines to the villages on each side of it - Ranelagh and Rathgar. They've vastly more appealing to people looking to raise families. It's peppered with absolute ****e that no one would want on their doorstep - euro shops, awful fast food, vape shops. The difference is that it has a name for having been bed sit central. The bigger buildings in a town/village define it and this sack of crap would drag Terenure down to Rathmines levels. </snob>
Synode wrote: » Rathmines Village itself is regenerating nicely the last few years. And you mustn't have spent much time there if you think it's only known for bedsits. There are some absolutely huge, beautifully kept houses in Rathmines. Populated by families. Very wealthy families at that.
dregin wrote: » As many of the locals who spoke at the meeting are. This development doesn't cater to families or people who want to live here long-term. We can't get permission to open our front garden for car access because we're too close to the junction, but this development is ~50 metres closer and the car park entrance is on our road! The traffic is bad enough as is. Adding another 37 cars to the mix ALONG with the bus corridoor making templeogue road one-way is just bananas.
