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Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-mumofseven-margaret-cash-appears-in-court-over-stealing-300-worth-of-clothes-from-penneys-37434491.html

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Deebles McBeebles

ShaneC93 wrote: »

Back on the subject of Ms.Cash it's another day, another dodgy Facebook raffle, she straight away snapped up a €100 ticket for a 1.75% chance of winning a car.. Presumably the car is stolen or something too because otherwise I'm not sure why he's raffling it off on Facebook for half the resale value.

We're overdue a post about her not having enough money left each month for food and clothing for the kids, I'm sure there's one coming soon.

You wouldn't get 7 kids in to that, she should enter a raffle for a people carrier instead.

Roger Hassenforder

Gravelly wrote: »

The council should have had a chef on site in case anyone wanted a snack after the feed of beer and drugs. It is a disgraceful sign of the bigotry and racism in Ireland that a chef wasn't present at all times.

In fairness, any put upon ethnic minority with expectations of culturally appropriate accomodation, to include paddocks and stables, should reasonably expect some catering staff to be provided.

punisher5112

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

In fairness, any put upon ethnic minority with expectations of culturally appropriate accomodation, to include paddocks and stables, should reasonably expect some catering staff to be provided.

Don't forget slave labour..... Sorry I meant a butler and maid.

tretorn

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

"Thomas Connors had a blood alcohol level of 224 milligrams per cent at autopsy, the equivalent of around six pints. He had recently consumed a large volume of chips, the court heard. Coroner Dr Myra Cullinane said this was significant as the cause of the fire was a chip pan left on the hot plate of an electric cooker.

Connors was the only victim to have consumed chips shortly before the fire, the court heard"

But muh, d'Council...

I suppose one of the other adults could have put on the chip pan after Thomas Connors used it.It will never be known for definite who actually turned the heat to max setting and left the chip pan on top.

I think its more likely that the person who turned it on fell asleep while waiting for the oil to heat. If someone was sober enough to eat a plate of chips they probably would have turned the oven off.

Roger Hassenforder

tretorn wrote: »

I suppose one of the other adults could have put on the chip pan after Thomas Connors used it.It will never be known for definite who actually turned the heat to max setting and left the chip pan on top.

I think its more likely that the person who turned it on fell asleep while waiting for the oil to heat. If someone was sober enough to eat a plate of chips they probably would have turned the oven off.

Or the most probable.
Someone pissed made chips, emptied their chips onto plate, left pan back on cooker, went off eat chips and forgot chip pan

True. We'll never know for certain who caused the tragedy. But adults, booze, irresponsible behaviour and kids is a recipe for disaster.

ohnonotgmail

tretorn wrote: »

I suppose one of the other adults could have put on the chip pan after Thomas Connors used it.It will never be known for definite who actually turned the heat to max setting and left the chip pan on top.

I think its more likely that the person who turned it on fell asleep while waiting for the oil to heat. If someone was sober enough to eat a plate of chips they probably would have turned the oven off.

why do you need to be sober to eat a plate of chips? I can tell you from long experience that sobriety is not a requirement for eating chips. Whoever left the oil on the heat is not particularly relevant. All we know for sure is that it was one of the people present.

Dakotabigone

Is Mags on Instagram or Snapchat?

tuxy

Well ideally the coroner's court want to find out exactly what happened but have been unable to determine who left the pan on.
All they know for sure is that every one of them was drunk.

ohnonotgmail

tuxy wrote: »

Well ideally the coroner's court want to find out exactly what happened but have been unable to determine who left the pan on.
All they know for sure is that every one of them was drunk.

The coroner most likely care who left the pan on. the only care about the cause of death which in this case will be misadventure.

tuxy

They still attempt to uncover as much detail as possible. Why else would they announce who had consumed chips on that night?

ohnonotgmail

tuxy wrote: »

They still attempt to uncover as much detail as possible. Why else would they announce who had consumed chips on that night?

That was just confirmation that a chip pan had been used that night.

punisher5112

tretorn wrote: »

I suppose one of the other adults could have put on the chip pan after Thomas Connors used it.It will never be known for definite who actually turned the heat to max setting and left the chip pan on top.

I think its more likely that the person who turned it on fell asleep while waiting for the oil to heat. If someone was sober enough to eat a plate of chips they probably would have turned the oven off.

Your way over thinking it.

He was the most likely. If he had of had it on and ate it would have been hot when the other person if there was.

Personal responsibility again on this one.

You can't cure stupid.

Floppybits

tuxy wrote: »

They still attempt to uncover as much detail as possible. Why else would they announce who had consumed chips on that night?

Did they confirm that the chips came from the chip pan or from the local Macari's?

tretorn

It just doesnt seem fair when we just dont know for certain. I presume he could have eaten chips from anywhere or he may not have actually cooked the chips at all.

Its just as likely that any of the adults could have put the chip pan on and then fell asleep.

It would be really important for the families to know who actually was responsible for the fire, grandchildren lost their lives due to someones carelessness.

I would think most fires caused by chip pans are when someone turns it on and then forgets about it. As I said if you turn it on and cook chips I think its more likely that you would turn it off after emptying the chips out.

tuxy

Exactly and that's why the inquest would have made an attempt to answer those questions. However it would seem that they were unable to uncover enough evidence to give a verdict on such things.

Deebles McBeebles

Just saw this..

AN INQUEST INTO the 2015 Carrickmines fire has returned verdicts of misadventure in relation to all 10 deaths.

The fire claimed a total of ten victims, five adults and five children including five-month-old baby Mary Connors.

The inquest had heard from Deputy State Pathologist Dr Margaret Bolster who said autopsies revealed all ten victims had fatal levels of carbon monoxide saturation apart from baby Mary.

However, Dr Bolster said infants and the elderly are far more vulnerable to the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning.

The fire took place at the Glenamuck Halting Site on 10 October 2015.

The emergency temporary halting site was established by Dun Laoghaire Rathdown Council in 2008.

sligojoek

Martin Collins will be on 6.01 news after the break.

Patrick2010

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Just saw this..

AN INQUEST INTO the 2015 Carrickmines fire has returned verdicts of misadventure in relation to all 10 deaths.

The fire claimed a total of ten victims, five adults and five children including five-month-old baby Mary Connors.

The inquest had heard from Deputy State Pathologist Dr Margaret Bolster who said autopsies revealed all ten victims had fatal levels of carbon monoxide saturation apart from baby Mary.

However, Dr Bolster said infants and the elderly are far more vulnerable to the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning.

The fire took place at the Glenamuck Halting Site on 10 October 2015.

The emergency temporary halting site was established by Dun Laoghaire Rathdown Council in 2008.

Pavees Martin Collins due next on 6.01 news to explain the verdict

Potential-Monke

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Pavees Martin Collins due next on 6.01 news to explain the verdict

What's to explain? Seems fairly straight forward to me.

Goldengirl

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

One of the families bought the caravan/portacabin onto the site, without permission of the council and pushed it up against the other caravan/portacabin.

Its the family that should have left them 6 metres apart, but they didn't. Them and them alone are responsible for the fire.

Really? That's not what the inquest jury thought.

SEPT 23 1989

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Pavees Martin Collins due next on 6.01 news to explain the verdict

How did he twist the verdict to blame the law abiding taxpayer?

Goldengirl

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

You couldn't write this crap. Had the council not provided the accommodation on health and safety grounds you'd be on here moralising about that too.

How happy would you be to be housed in a fire trap of a house by the council?

Patrick2010

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

How did he twist the verdict to blame the law abiding taxpayer?

It was the equivalent of the settled community losing 1500 people in a single accident.
No discussion on it being caused by various drunks cooking chips at 2 am and falling asleep.

TheRiverman

sligojoek wrote: »

Martin Collins will be on 6.01 news after the break.

We didn't see him on last week condemning the violence prior to the funeral of Maureen Stokes or explaining why travellers bring guns,hatches,slash hooks,acid (allegedly )etc to funerals of their own families members.

pjohnson

Might have took a week but I see the jokes about Carrickmines are out in force now!

Gravelly wrote: »

The council should have had a chef on site in case anyone wanted a snack after the feed of beer and drugs. It is a disgraceful sign of the bigotry and racism in Ireland that a chef wasn't present at all times.

Patrick2010

TheRiverman wrote: »

We didn't see him on last week condemning the violence prior to the funeral of Maureen Stokes or explaining why travellers bring guns,hatches,slash hooks,acid (allegedly )etc to funerals of their own families members.

If we did see him he’d be explaining that happens regularly at settled peoples funerals also.

The Satanist

TheRiverman wrote: »

We didn't see him on last week condemning the violence prior to the funeral of Maureen Stokes or explaining why travellers bring guns,hatches,slash hooks,acid (allegedly )etc to funerals of their own families members.

You'd hardly expect RTE you ask a difficult question like that.

Odelay

The Satanist wrote: »

You'd hardly expect RTE you ask a difficult question like that.

I nearly fell off my chair. Did the RTE news person say “I’d be concerned if there was a planning application for a halting site near me”?? That is a brave thing for her to say.

Gravelly

Odelay wrote: »

I nearly fell off my chair. Did the RTE news person say “I’d be concerned if there was a planning application for a halting site near me”?? That is a brave thing for her to say.

That’s probably the last we’ll see of her.

jelutong

Last year a local authority in the South East spent over €400,000 on a house for a traveller family.