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First PC Build part list - A look over would be appreciated

Jmmd2000

Hey lads,

I have a part list done out for my first PC build and i just thought i would post here to get it double-checked. Id just like to know two things:

1. Are all my parts compatible?

and

2. Can they be gotten anywhere cheaper?

Here they are:

CPU:

Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor

€193

GPU:

Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Turbo Video Card

€305

CPU COOLER:

Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

€26

CASE:

NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case

€79

RAM:

Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory

€103

PSU:

EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W, Power Supply 100-W1-0600-K3

€45

MOTHERBOARD:

Gigabyte - B360 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

€119

SSD:

Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB 2.5 inch Solid State Drive

€84

HDD:

Seagate - Barracuda 2tb 3.5" 7200rpm internal hard drive

€62

Total = €1016

Thanks in advance guys!

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TitianGerm

Jmmd2000 wrote: »

Hey lads,

I have a part list done out for my first PC build and i just thought i would post here to get it double-checked. Id just like to know two things:

1. Are all my parts compatible?

and

2. Can they be gotten anywhere cheaper?

Here they are:

CPU:

Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor

€193
GPU:

Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Turbo Video Card

€305
CPU COOLER:

Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

€26
CASE:

NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case

€79
RAM:

Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory

€103
PSU:

EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W, Power Supply 100-W1-0600-K3

€45
MOTHERBOARD:

Gigabyte - B360 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

€119
SSD:

Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB 2.5 inch Solid State Drive

€84
HDD:

Seagate - Barracuda 2tb 3.5" 7200rpm internal hard drive

€62
Total = €1016

Thanks in advance guys!

Here's faster ram for €87 - https://www.amazon.es/dp/B07F6JPLJ2

And a PNY Geforce 1060 6GB for £169 -
https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/pny-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-graphics-card-oem-packaging/vcggtx10606-blk.html#utm_source=tradedoubler&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=2142931_digidip+UK

Not sure about the rest but I'm sure someone else will help on that.

Venom

sugarman wrote: »

Id go for a Ryzen 5 2600 + RTX 2060 combo instead, its only €30 more than what you've already budgeted for a CPU + GPU and they blow the socks off both.

This ^^^^.
The tiny amount extra will get you a MUCH better system that has a decent upgrade path down the road via a Ryzen 3 or 4 CPU.

Jmmd2000

Venom wrote: »

The tiny amount extra will get you a MUCH better system that has a decent upgrade path down the road via a Ryzen 3 or 4 CPU.

Are that cpu and gpu both compatible with my current setup or would I have to change anything else?

Simi

Jmmd2000 wrote: »

Are that cpu and gpu both compatible with my current setup or would I have to change anything else?

You'd need a new motherboard + the faster (cheaper) ram to make the most of the CPU.

Jmmd2000

Simi wrote: »

You'd need a new motherboard + the faster (cheaper) ram to make the most of the CPU.

What motherboard would you recommend that would be compatible?

Jmmd2000

sugarman wrote: »

Motherboard, x370 or x470 socket. Same price point as the one you picked. Everything else looks fine.

Grand ok thanks

ill take a look

Venom

Jmmd2000 wrote: »

Grand ok thanks ill take a look

Go for at least an X470 board. You bet faster ram speed compatibility (Ryzen CPUs love faster ram) and XFR2 which auto overclocks the CPU.

Jmmd2000

Venom wrote: »

Go for at least an X470 board. You bet faster ram speed compatibility (Ryzen CPUs love faster ram) and XFR2 which auto overclocks the CPU.

Would this be suitable?And would I need to change my RAM?

K.O.Kiki

Jmmd2000 wrote: »

Would this be suitable?And would I need to change my RAM?

AMD's AM4 platform uses DDR4 (same as Intel).
MSI make the best budget motherboards for AM4.

If trying for RTX 2060:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£144.98 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler (£23.28 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard (£93.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£102.99 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card (£339.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.23 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £955.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-22 03:31 GMT+0000
Can get to a grand by going lower on the case or forgoing the 2Tb drive for now.

TerrorFirmer

Hardly fair to say the 2600 'blows the socks off' the 8400 when the 8400 is actually faster in games. I agree Ryzen is a better upgrade platform, but the 8400 is a good gaming CPU and there is also a fair amount of upgrade potential in that socket. By the time the 8400, or any CPU based on that socket that could be purchased 2nd hand down the road (say, an 8700 or 9700K, or 9900K) becomes obsolete or poor for gaming, the Ryzen platform would be in the same boat anyway.

It's not really going to make any difference either way on a 60hz monitor.

Jmmd2000

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Hardly fair to say the 2600 'blows the socks off' the 8400 when the 8400 is actually faster in games. I agree Ryzen is a better upgrade platform, but the 8400 is a good gaming CPU and there is also a fair amount of upgrade potential in that socket. By the time the 8400, or any CPU based on that socket that could be purchased 2nd hand down the road (say, an 8700 or 9700K, or 9900K) becomes obsolete or poor for gaming, the Ryzen platform would be in the same boat anyway.

It's not really going to make any difference either way on a 60hz monitor.

So would the system I have listed there be decent enough?

TerrorFirmer

The Ryzen 2600 is cheaper I think so it's fine to stick with that, I was just pointing out that your original choice is also fine.

Ryzen will likely offer you two more generations of upgrade potential (let's say, hypothetically, Ryzen 3 at least, possibly Ryzen 4 also). These will also likely be very affordable.

The Intel socket will limit you to current gen upgrades, so you could go from the 8400 to 8700, 9700, or 9900K down the line, which offer more cores and threads. How pricing on these will be in a few years is hard to say, but likely cheap to pick up 2nd hand.

By the time any of those CPU's are obsolete or not good for gaming, the Ryzen will be too regardless, so I wouldn't get too worked up worrying about either CPU. They're both good choices.

The Ryzen 2600 should be paired with 3000mhz ram and overclocked to around 4.1-4.2Ghz to bring it on-par with, or slightly exceed, the 8400 in current games. It will likely age better in a couple of years as it's got more threads than the 8400.

K.O.Kiki

The most important thing is, don't pay €300 for a GTX 1060 when RTX 2060 is around €355-360 and outperforms it by 30-40%.

Also avoid single-fan "blower" GPUs (like your linked Asus Turbo) whenever possible.

TerrorFirmer

Absolutely. That's way more important than either CPU, either of which is good for a few years without having to worry about it.

If you did plan spending that much on a GPU but can't afford the RTX2060, consider an RX590 8GB, it's about £250 and comes with 3 great games.

Jmmd2000

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Absolutely. That's way more important than either CPU, either of which is good for a few years without having to worry about it.

If you did plan spending that much on a GPU but can't afford the RTX2060, consider an RX590 8GB, it's about £250 and comes with 3 great games.

The 590 Fatboy or the 590 Nitro+?

Jmmd2000

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

The most important thing is, don't pay €300 for a GTX 1060 when RTX 2060 is around €355-360 and outperforms it by 30-40%.

Also avoid single-fan "blower" GPUs (like your linked Asus Turbo) whenever possible.

What's wrong with the single fan ones?

K.O.Kiki

Jmmd2000 wrote: »

The 590 Fatboy or the 590 Nitro+?

Nitro+

The FatBoy is cheaper since reviews are slating its ineffective & loud cooler.

Jmmd2000 wrote: »

What's wrong with the single fan ones?

http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2017/07/video-card-coolers-blower-vs-open-air-vs-aio/

Exhausting air out the back of the card helps in cases with poor airflow since there is no hot air blown into the case; conversely, it is exhausted outside of the chassis. On the other hand, the volume of that air is usually so small that the single tiny fan must spin much faster to cool the GPU properly, meaning most blower style cards are susceptible to higher temperatures and noise levels compared to their competition.

Jmmd2000

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Nitro+

The FatBoy is cheaper since reviews are slating its ineffective & loud cooler.

http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2017/07/video-card-coolers-blower-vs-open-air-vs-aio/

riiiiiight ok I get you. and the 590 would be compatible with the rest of my setup?

K.O.Kiki

Jmmd2000 wrote: »

riiiiiight ok I get you. and the 590 would be compatible with the rest of my setup?

I'd never suggest an EVGA White-model power supply for a gaming build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£144.98 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler (£23.38 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard (£93.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£102.99 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 590 8 GB NITRO+ SE Video Card (£268.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.23 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £884.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-22 13:22 GMT+0000

Jmmd2000

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I'd never suggest an EVGA White-model power supply for a gaming build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£144.98 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Pure Rock Slim 35.14 CFM CPU Cooler (£23.38 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard (£93.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£102.99 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 590 8 GB NITRO+ SE Video Card (£268.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.23 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £884.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-22 13:22 GMT+0000

That looks good

Thanks sm