meeeeh wrote: » So there is absolutely no problem if by sheer coincidence PNSI would be 100% protestant? Good to know that people would have full trust in the force anyway.
lbc2019 wrote: » How triggered are the incels on boards they need to project perceived injustice from other countries on the much maligned straight white male lolz
AlphabetCards wrote: » Actually it is not. I thought you were an open minded academic?
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » lbc2019 wrote: » How triggered are the incels on boards they need to project perceived injustice from other countries on the much maligned straight white male lolz You’ve convinced us all that racial hiring in police forces is a good thing with that brilliant argument.
splashuum wrote: » An interesting job posting from the British police. I can see why this went viral.https://www.facebook.com/britishtransportpolice/photos/a.323104971171991/1244843678998111/?type=3 What ever happened to hiring the best person for the job? :rolleyes:
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » What divides society is this kind of racial huckerism. Race doesn’t exist but state sanctioned racial categorisation does.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » You’re a government employee right? What’s the percentage of non white Irish in your dept?
Folkstonian wrote: » lbc2019 wrote: » How triggered are the incels on boards they need to project perceived injustice from other countries on the much maligned straight white male lolz Between this post and your one on the first page, it’s clear that you are the only person who has been properly rattled by this thread. Everyone else seems to be participating in robust but reasonable debate, whilst you have lost a hold of yourself.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Why would a white woman or Chinese man (etc etc etc) be any better at policing a black area than a white man? Or should we police every ethnic group with its own police force.
lbc2019 wrote: » I’m not gonna try to convince incels anything - I’m just laughing at their perceived injustice.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » lbc2019 wrote: » I’m not gonna try to convince incels anything - I’m just laughing at their perceived injustice. I’ll tell my wife about my incel status. Cut out the insults. Learn to engage in debate above the age of a five year old
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Who said they are better or have to be better? Why would they be any worse?
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Dunno what the numbers are, or if my organisations tracks or reports numbers. I know I've had dealings with colleagues including a black African, a lady who appears to be of Chinese extraction (based on her name and her appearance), a gent of Middle Eastern appearance/name and a few Eastern European guys. That kind of diversity isn't represented in senior management, mind you - but hopefully over time.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Let’s do tests or interviews and see. Like in the job I have on a company where in fact Irish people are a minority. Nobody cares because people are there on merit. If a policy of hiring more Irish people to rectify the situation arose, I’d oppose that too.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » The four anecdotal lads without specific roles you met isn’t that convincing. I’ve never met an Irish civil servant or (non frontline) government employee who wasn’t white Irish. Country people are over represented too.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » If you think that “sort of diversity” in upper management is a problem though then the civil service should make quotas for civil service exams and for promotion. To me that creates the racial divisions it supposedly aims to heal. That said I can’t see it happening.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » In general companies and government use racial divisions to keep the workers in line while the jobs go to same connected network at the top. The legal system is a good example. RTE is another one.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Historical discrimination isn’t really the same argument. Catholics were banned by law, or custom, and that’s a rectification. Similarly the situation in the US is different.
punisher5112 wrote: » All Irish companies are doing it very similar with looking for women to join such as bus driver, train driver etc. Shocking stuff to be honest. Whoever is suited for the job should be employed.
punisher5112 wrote: » For police work we really need the height brought back and to have police that can actually defend and tackle when needed. Most I see going around couldn't tackle a 10 year old.
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Another thing that worries me about these ads specifying certain ethnicities is that it might to lead to people of that ethnicity in other companies being treated with suspicion that they weren’t the best person interviewed, even if they were the very best.
HappyAsLarE wrote: » The irony - while trying to be uber progressive they have in fact discrimanated.
meeeeh wrote: » It's not about discrimination, it's about effective policing. You need staff people trust to cooperate with them or you are getting nowhere. Do you really think white atheist woman will be more successful getting information from local mosque on Islamists than would be a Pakistani origin muslim man?
Airyfairy12 wrote: » I dont see the problem with it, if the majority of their employees are white men then surely that creates a bias. The add is not suggesting that they dont want white men in the police force, theyre encouraging different types of people to join. Surely that's a positive thing?
Robert ninja wrote: » The problem is the civilian in that scenario. We don't need discriminatory diversity hiring quotas to handle discriminating religious nuts. It's disturbing that people entertain the idea that a population not cooperating with law enforcement because they're not muslim/brown/whatever enough is solved with race/religion-matching. Also the idea that heavy muslim populated areas being policed by more muslims would somehow lead to peaceful outcomes is bloody bonkers. It would be one of the most dangerous situations; think Rotherham to but to the Nth degree.
Folkstonian wrote: » Why does the skin colour of a police officer matter? Is it a requirement for some people that they are dealt with by a black or Asian (or indeed white) police officer if they have been burgled or assaulted? If so, should we placate people like that or should they be told to get a grip?
RWCNT wrote: » How did I know before even clicking the link that "White Men Need Not Apply" was your own creative licence
