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Fox hunting

Airyfairy12

Why is it not banned?

Im staying with my parents for the weekend, they live in the countryside and today a large group of fox hunters with their hounds came charging down past the house which is on a busy country road and on a bad bend, they could have easily caused an accident.
Then they went into the field beside my parents and proceeded to chase a frightened little animal with their dogs. There has to be some level of psychopathy involved in this to brutally chase an animal and watch it being malled to death for fun.
If this wasnt bad enough they dont even warn the locals that they plan to hunt in the area. My parents have pet cats which regularly wander into the local fields during the day and could have easily been caught up in the hunt and on a Saturday afternoon, there's often people going for walks/runs on the road, to be met with a gang of hunters, horses and dogs charging down the road around dangerous bends could have resulted in someone being hurt.
I suppose its not surprising that the people who hurt animals for sport wouldnt have any consideration for locals or other road users but what I dont understand is why its not banned here?

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Unearthly

A scumbag activity for scumbags

Hoboo

Cherry Blossom wrote: »

Houndless hunts seem to be all the rage up here now. No fox, no hounds, not sure what the difference is between that and going for a cross country hack. Drag hunting is something I did a few times when I had horses, very fast paced and mostly off road on established cross country courses. Can't imagine you'd get the same enjoyment out of the much slower paced fox hunt.

They don't do it for the horsemanship they do it for the kill. Never once heard the big boys from the local hunt talk about the great run with the horses, it's always excited schoolboy sh1t about how they tracked him all the way to the River and he couldn't get away. They're complete scum, lowest of the low.

The Rape of Lucretia

Heckler wrote: »

Where exactly is the "fun" in chasing down an animal about the size of a small dog while on a horse multiples of its size and a bunch of baying hounds leading the way

With respect, thats a silly question. Its fyn because its fun. Nothing we do for fun can be answered like that. Whats fun about kicking a ball round a field, playing a musical instrument to a level way below what you can hear just switching on a recording, being pulled up a mountain to just slide back down it again, tossing boulles at a small ball, etc.

You must accept that hunting is indeed great fun for those who do it, whether you understand it, have experienced it, or not.

And also, that had you been brought up in a riding, hunting, background or tradition, you would probably enjoy it, and practice it too.

Hoboo

gozunda wrote: »

Yeah I hear that rubbish from the mad extremist anti brigade animal nutters over the water - who appear to have arrived here in numbers after they got run out of there by the police etc. The are same types of groups who attack farmers who attack anyone involved in animal agriculture, all types of hunting, the pharmaceutical industry etc. Btw hunting in Ireland has a much longer recorded history . Hunting with or without hounds was not introducrd it's part of culture here.. End of story. Dont like it tough. Report something if you thinks its against the law.

It's part of the British culture, not Irish.

[Deleted User]

whisky_galore wrote: »

You say that it's 'fun', go on. Don't hide behind words.

I don’t hunt myself but have family members who did in the past and follow on foot now. The fact is that it is fun though for those taking part both hunting and those following the hunt on foot.

I don’t see how people can see the fun, skill and challenge of Navigating cross county on a horse. You don’t know what’s on the far side of a wall or what’s around a corner in the next field etc.

gozunda

Sheepdish1 wrote: »

There is a massive difference to wildlife hunting to eat compared to the barbaric “sport” of fox hunting which involves the very drawn out, terrifying and barbaric death of a wild animal. Fox hunting involves chasing a terrified fox for hours by a large pack of hounds and people on horses. The foxes position in then located and they use terriers to flush out foxes or resort to digging out the foxes and eventually the fox is ripped to shreds.The hounds are made blood thirsty when young by using live bait, this is usually Cubs that have been dug out. The hounds are treated poorly also. This sport is barbaric. OP there are hunt sabators that meet to deter the hunters and try to protect foxes

Thats your misinformed opinion btw. Hounds kill the exact same way fox killed rabbits etc. Quickly and efficiently. The chase by hounds is the same as others predators. Nothing gets chassd 'for hours' ffs. And only hounds go after the fox. Foxes are also hunted more often on foot than foot following on horses. Only illegal types of hunting mostly by gangs from the UK do that digging out in my experience. It's the same bs repeated by anti extremists all the time. The anti and sab idiots in the UK are engaged in a vicous and nasty class war over there. That's the last type of rubbish we need to bringing in here. As stated If something is against the law report it.

Tuco88

Hunting with a rifle I have no issue at all.

Using horses and a pack of hounds is moronic.

Its not even an Irish thing not even close, only a gimmick of a "sport" from the old rich landed gentry.

[Deleted User]

Sheepdish1 wrote: »

There is a massive difference to wildlife hunting to eat compared to the barbaric “sport” of fox hunting which involves the very drawn out, terrifying and barbaric death of a wild animal.

Fox hunting involves chasing a terrified fox for hours by a large pack of hounds and people on horses. The foxes position in then located and they use terriers to flush out foxes or resort to digging out the foxes and eventually the fox is ripped to shreds.
The hounds are made blood thirsty when young by using live bait, this is usually Cubs that have been dug out. The hounds are treated poorly also. This sport is barbaric. OP there are hunt sabators that meet to deter the hunters and try to protect foxes

You’ve obviously never heard of the wily old fox? Very few are ever caught. They run reams around the hounds. After all foxy is in his/her own home ground.

As for the hounds being treated poorly, in what way? They are fed, watered, bedded in comfy kennels, vaccinated, treated for fleas and worms, exercised.

Tilikum17

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You’ve obviously never heard of the wily old fox? Very few are ever caught. They run reams around the hounds. After all foxy is in his/her own home ground.

As for the hounds being treated poorly, in what way? They are fed, watered, bedded in comfy kennels, vaccinated, treated for fleas and worms, exercised.

When is your next hunt, Mary?

[Deleted User]

Tilikum17 wrote: »

When is your next hunt, Mary?

Want to join and educate yourself?

gozunda

Hoboo wrote: »

It's part of the British culture, not Irish.

So our history of hunting is rubbish is it? Cuculain etc tell of hunting with hounds before the English had got off their beds. Ancient Irish laws stipulated that landowners were obliged to hunt and control foxes and wovles. The Irish also hunted on horse back. But you do what the funny thing is? More hunting today is done on foot with hounds in rural areas than anywhere else. But then of course hunting and horses is the favourite poster campaign of the english nutter anti / sab community. And the same bs repeated. That's the same bunch who want to get meat banned as well and want everyone to eat beans or whatever.

wakka12

It is barbaric and should be banned,Im surprised it hasnt already been

anewme

Tired of the "You townies don t understand rural life" bull**** that crops up any time this comes up.

As someone else said, Ireland has a very poor record on basic animal rights, which needs to change.

Foxhunters are bullies, who think they own the place.

A family and their children had to watch their pet cat turn asunder in Cork I believe when the bunt trespassed after the fox. But of course the hunters apologised, sure they can just get another cat.

Damn this cruel practice to the realms of history, where it belongs.

Discodog

gozunda wrote: »

Thats your misinformed opinion btw. Hounds kill the exact same way fox killed rabbits etc. Quickly and efficiently. The chase by hounds is the same as others predators. Nothing gets chassd 'for hours' ffs. And only hounds go after the fox. Foxes are also hunted more often on foot than foot following on horses. Only illegal types of hunting mostly by gangs from the UK do that digging out in my experience. It's the same bs repeated by anti extremists all the time. The anti and sab idiots in the UK are engaged in a vicous and nasty class war over there. That's the last type of rubbish we need to bringing in here. As stated If something is against the law report it.

To the uninitiated "Anti" is the word used, by those that support hunting, as a derisory term meaning anyone who opposes their right to torture wildlife. It's trolled out time after time as is the term "Townie".

archer22

Deleted User wrote: »

You’ve obviously never heard of the wily old fox? Very few are ever caught. They run reams around the hounds. After all foxy is in his/her own home ground.

As for the hounds being treated poorly, in what way? They are fed, watered, bedded in comfy kennels, vaccinated, treated for fleas and worms, exercised.

And then killed at around 7 years of age, cos they are no longer of any use.

Discodog

Deleted User wrote: »

Want to join and educate yourself?

Bring a child along to be "blooded" - practice where the tail is cut off a fox & the blood smeared on a child's face to "celebrate" their first hunt.

Rows Grower

gozunda wrote: »

Thats your misinformed opinion btw. Hounds kill the exact same way fox killed rabbits etc. Quickly and efficiently. The chase by hounds is the same as others predators. Nothing gets chassd 'for hours' ffs. And only hounds go after the fox. Foxes are also hunted more often on foot than foot following on horses. Only illegal types of hunting mostly by gangs from the UK do that digging out in my experience. It's the same bs repeated by anti extremists all the time. The anti and sab idiots in the UK are engaged in a vicous and nasty class war over there. That's the last type of rubbish we need to bringing in here. As stated If something is against the law report it.

There's plenty of Irish do it too and it's not illegal.

Discodog

archer22 wrote: »

And then killed at around 7 years of age, cos they are no longer of any use.

And if they pick up any kind of illness or injury.

freshpopcorn

Your lucky you didn't see the guys out lamping!

Discodog

gozunda wrote: »

So our history of hunting is rubbish is it? Cuculain etc tell of hunting with hounds before the English had got off their beds. Ancient Irish laws stipulated that landowners were obliged to hunt and control foxes and wovles. The Irish also hunted on horse back. But you do what the funny thing is? More hunting today is done on foot with hounds in rural areas than anywhere else. But then of course hunting and horses is the favourite poster campaign of the english nutter anti / sab community. And the same bs repeated. That's the same bunch who want to get meat banned as well and want everyone to eat beans or whatever.

Child abuse is in our history. What's your point ? That fox hunting is now the sport of the "common man" & that makes it ok ?

gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

Bring a child along to be "blooded" - practice where the tail is cut off a fox & the blood smeared on a child's face to "celebrate" their first hunt.

You're b****ing about our English friends and the rubbish they push out. Blooded me arse. As said most hunting here with hounds is done on foot. But that doesn't suit the viscous extremist anti community who try and tell every one else what to do. Or the bull**** they put out when all they want is for everyone else to do what they want.

Yeah Irish culture and tradition. You clearly know fek all. Why are you on about 'child abuse'. Just in case you don't know that's against the law. Hunting ain't. That you would even use such an analogy shows how sick and twisted those who are anti and against hunting are.Take such stupid analogies and put them someplace dark and humid.

Discodog

gozunda wrote: »

You're b****ing about your English friends and the rubbish they push out. Blooded me arse. As said most hunting here with hounds is done on foot. But that doesn't suit the viscous extremist anti community who try and tell every one else what to do. Or the bull**** they put out when all they want is for everyone else to do what they want.

You know my friends ? I doubt it somehow :pac:

If your arse is blooded you should seek medical attention.

So we are all vicious extremists. A man, who is happy for a fox to be hunted for fun, is calling us extremists :rolleyes:

El_Duderino 09

I'm ambivalent about it. I don't like animal cruelty. But I think the rural communities are having the rug pulled out from under them by changing culture. I felt similarly ambivalent about bull fighting in Spain.

Rural isolation is a serious issue. It's hard to expect people from urban areas to understand the culture in the countryside. Mental health and suicide are worryingly high in rural communities.

A big part of me thinks we need to be flexible to encourage rural communities to come together.

Because of the problems faced by rural communities I would be in favour of allowing fox hunting if it helps solve the problem.

It's a matter of choosing between two things I don't like, animal cruelty and rural isolation. I would choose to help with the rural isolation in this case.

gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

You know my friends ? I doubt it somehow :pac:
If your arse is blooded you should seek medical attention.So we are all vicious extremists. A man, who is happy for a fox to be hunted for fun, is calling us extremists :rolleyes:

I've came across a load of these types online. And most of these anti scum appear to originate over the water funnily enough. Who know feck all about hunting in ireland and which is mainly done on foot. Oh and in the UK foxes are still shot and eradicated by pest control companies in increasing numbers because the populations are no longer managed locally. But then that doesn't suit the propaganda does it.

greencap

Hunting and culling can be justified by necessity.

Killing for pleasure, and sport is disgusting.

If there's a fox to be killed, let it be done by one or two men on a wage.
Rather than some creeps trying to be part of the horse set.

Rows Grower

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I've absolutely no problem with hunting foxes.

I just think they should ban the useage of guns, dogs and horses while doing so.

Personally I don't agree with snaring foxes but if that's what you are into, that's your choice and who am I to cast judgement?

You're doing nothing illegal once the snare complies with the regulations set out under the Irish Wildlife Act.

Ultimanemo

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Its not the same thing at all, cats are instinctual, humans know better. Notice im not blaming the hunters dogs, im blaming the hunters.

Yes, humans know better and shouldn't be sending their cats outdoors to kill innocent poor birds

Discodog

gozunda wrote: »

I've came across a load of these types online. And most of these anti scum appear to originate over the water funnily enough. Who know feck all about hunting in ireland and which is mainly done on foot. Oh and in the UK foxes are still shot and eradicated by pest control companies in increasing numbers because the populations are no longer managed locally. But then that doesn't suit the propaganda does it.

Am I on your list ? How about other posters here ? The only person using abusive language is you.

Mad_maxx

People who hunt might be lovely folk every other day of the week but when with their fox - hare chasing colleagues, turn into thee most obnoxious, aggressive and arrogant **** on the planet, no respect for private property whatsoever

gozunda

Discodog wrote: »

Am I on your list ? How about other posters here ? The only person using abusive language is you.

'Feck' is abusive now is it? Father Ted is about to be banned so. Why are you making this discussion about you?