Shelga wrote: » 90% of the Question Time audience in Derby seem to want to leave with no deal. That stain on humanity Isabel Oakeshott is playing to her audience. Absolute insanity. It is like a cult. Please, let them leave with no deal and see them still try to blame the EU for absolutely everything from the NHS to housing in three years time.
bob mcbob wrote: » Yup so lets see where we stand - - 2nd Referendum - rejected by Corbyn and May - General Election - rejected by May - No deal - rejected by Corbyn and enough Tories to stop it - May's Compromise - rejected by Corbyn and enough Tories to stop it That only leaves a type Norway option - supported by opposition parties and probably enough Tories to allow it to pass
bob mcbob wrote: » The Telegraph headline Cabinet ministers warn Theresa May she will face mass resignations unless she allows MPs to stop no-deal Brexit.
As matters stand, we’re either heading for crash out No Deal or the main parties are heading for break-up.
josip wrote: » Can someone please explain what the Norway-type option is? Does that mean the UK would have to be a member of EFTA? I thought Norway said they would veto that?
10000maniacs wrote: » Yes the Norway option. It would mean Britain continuing to abide by the four EU freedoms, including freedom of movement, as well as having no decision-making power in Brussels. And they would be replacing the ECJ with the EFTA courts. And why would countries like Norway along with the likes of Lichtenstein, Iceland and Switzerland allow a monolith like the UK distort the harmony and balance enjoyed by EEA/EFTA currently. What is in it for smaller countries vs the UK?
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » Question Time Isobel - staying in the single market means freedom of movement. WTF ? not even challenged on it.
Strazdas wrote: » It does mean that, yes and Norwegians did suggest they would have a problem with it. It would be a bizarre solution though. Why would the UK leave the EU to join the Single Market? It clearly would be a worse deal than EU membership.
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » Seems apparent there's a sizeable chunk of the UK population that want no deal. The support for it in the Commons might be small but they operate under a FPTP system rather than a proportional one. I don't think that body reflects the wider public sentiment.Listening to Question Time it's clear they've fallen for the charlatans and snake-oil salesmen hook, line and sinker. One member still trotting out the unicorn about the German car manufacturers coming to the rescue. I really think the UK is on its last legs. I can't see a nation with sense like Scotland wanting to be tied to this circus for much longer. I just hope the majority in NI reach the same conclusion as it's tragic that our destiny on this island is affected by the opinions of people like Isabel Oakeshott.
Itssoeasy wrote: » I would listen to BBC radio a good bit and more so then any other week this week on five live and radio 4 have been eye opening. There seems to be a good section of people in the U.K. going on what people say on the radio who go from not being read up on the issue of brexit to just living in same fantasy land. It's actually frightening that the same false statements are used and few if any are properly challenged. One contribution ended with the reason why the eu should've been in their eyes more respectful to Theresa May is "two world wars...."
Strazdas wrote: It's insane stuff. There seems to be millions of "not very bright people" (ahem) getting their information from the British right wing press and basing their entire world view on it. It's a toxic mix.
wiggle16 wrote: » And she was a Remainer. Would they actually get a Norway EFTA arrangement now though? Surely that would take a long time to sort out? Not to mention Theresa May might actually drop dead if they ship her off the Brussels just to be told "Nein, Madam!" once again.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » This Question Time debate is surreal. Judging by the audience there is a sizeable proportion of the UK population willing to endure a destructive no deal Brexit just to see what happens.
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » It's very disturbing. Don't know if it was posted but on Newsnight earlier a member of the public said the country needed another Cromwell and Enoch Powell to step forward. ... It's sad and also troubling what is happenin right now. I'm concerned where this will end up.
The introduction of Dr Ó Siochrú's book details an incident whereby the newly elected taoiseach staged a walkout from the office of the foreign secretary upon seeing the portrait hanging, and refused to return until "that murdering bastard" had been removed.
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » https://twitter.com/LiamMcKee/status/1086031283422138368
branie2 wrote: » If that lady knew what Cromwell did to Ireland, she'd quickly change her tune
Bit cynical wrote: » Well it is too late now, but I think the EU and the UK could have discussed future trade during the two years of A50. Yes, there would be a conflict of interest if the UK reps were also on the EU side in the negotiation,but what would happen is that in order for talks to proceed, the UK would extricate itself from the EU side for the purposes of trade talks (this would include trade talks between the EU and other countries). This has already happened in other areas of the process where you have had the EU27 leaders meeting without the UK.
Russman wrote: » It’s actually frightening to watch. One guy saying that the EU is in recession and now is the time to apply maximum pressure to them - “WTF” doesn’t even begin to cover it. Of the panel, the Scottish girl is the only one speaking any sense at all, actually the guy at the far left of the screen, can’t remember his name, was fairly clued in too, while Abbott is really showing up how poor Labour are right now.I think at this stage, let them crash out and learn the hard way.
