Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » Was watching BBC NI earlier where they had a report on the border near Cavan and one of the locals interviewed said Nigel Dodds' father Joe worked as a customs officer. Found this a surprise and turns out it's true. From the Belfast Telegraph: So Dodds would know about customs more than most given his father's profession, yet just a few days ago was willing to stand over Arlene's recent comments that there had never been a hard border. Lamentable but not at all surprising.
Phonehead wrote: » So we are both standing up to the UK and co-operating with them at the same time. Amazing. Love it! for real you should be a Government advisor.
RobMc59 wrote: » Leaving would be a disastrous event for the UK but will effect others-let`s hope the UK see sense.https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-germany/german-industry-staring-into-abyss-of-no-deal-brexit-bdi-idUSKCN1MT1AL
Irishmale0399 wrote: » The same group wrote in a German article with the Handelsblatt that exports to the UK went back by 2% last year, whereas German exports worldwide increased by 5%....so a 3% plus. Aint bad in times of uncertainty worldwide. Add to the UK based companies relocating to Germany/EU for example in the banking/telecommunications sector......at the end Germany/EU wins.
Irishmale0399 wrote: » A German politician was asked today on local German radio if he really felt that the British reports that the German economy would suffer badly after a no deal Brexit were true.......his answer was very simple and clear.... If they leave they have to do deals with the world which will take time and will not put them in a good position due to desperation to save their own economy.....Ireland, Germany, France etc. will all work together and get on, with or without the UK. The UK is not the EU...the EU is much bigger and stronger and we will stand together.
RobMc59 wrote: Just my opinion but I`d say no one wins- we`ll probably all be worse off.
theguzman wrote: » A customs union undermines economic sovereignty and imposes rules on the UK over which they have no input so they have to leave. It is easy for the Irish state to pull out of International treaties as required and if we had a proper Nationalist Govt here would be standing up to the UK and co-operating with the UK to get Brexit implemented on a mutually beneficial basis.
Strazdas wrote: » The 2008 financial crash and subsequent bank bailouts of several EU states was 100 times worse an event than a No Deal Brexit. I get the impression that Brexiteers think the two events would be on a par (this is what they are being told by the Daily Telegraph). Many of the EU27 would be barely impacted at all by Britain crashing out. It's only a few of the UK's closer neighbours like Ireland, Netherlands and Belgium that are more exposed.
RobMc59 wrote: » Just my opinion but I`d say no one wins- we`ll probably all be worse off.
kippy wrote: » I don't know how you can say that without seeing the thing play out over the next decade or so to be straight about it. Every single state will be effected by Brexit, whether there is a deal or whether there is no deal - indeed every citizen of the EU will be effected, some more than others.
Enzokk wrote: » The problems with that is that they have no control over immigration or trade deals. This is two very important aspects that was sold to people who voted leave and Theresa May has them as her red lines as well. Also, it is a worse deal for the UK than they have now which can be used to hammer the government that signs on to this with.
bilston wrote: » Not sure if this has made onto the thread yet but a YouGov poll from yesterday gives Remain 56% and Leave 44%. That's the biggest gap in favour I've seen for Remain yet. A few more of those, particularly if the 12 point gap increases and then the voices calling for a People's Vote will grow louder and louder. Three options as I see it 1) Britain stays leaves the EU but stays in the Customs Union (under whatever description) 2) There is a No Deal Brexit 3) There is a 2nd Referendum
bilston wrote: » I don't think Corbyn is handling this well at all. On the on hand he tells May to drop her red lines with the EU. On the other he creates his own red line for talking to May...the irony...
prawnsambo wrote: » I know that looks like a good margin, but I don't think it's nearly wide enough for comfort. Until remain is well into the 60s to be honest. And that's just based on my feeling that the same old tripe would be served up and swallowed whole. My view for the last year has been that it's up to parliament, they have the tools and they can make the ballsy decision and stop the whole stupid thing.
Strazdas wrote: » Analysts and economists have the numbers for how interconnected each EU country is to the UK. Many in the east, central Europe and the south will barely be impacted at all. It's really only those in the north like Ireland, NL, Bel, Ger, Fra, Den and Swe that are more exposed to varying degrees. Most reckon though that No Deal would be so catastrophic for the UK that it would have to return to the negotiating table within days or weeks to try and salvage something from the wreckage. The idea of Britain being in ten years of a No Deal set up is fantasy stuff being peddled by the English hard right.
Irishmale0399 wrote: » I also assume that the EU27 will stand together and try to reduce any countries loss based on trade lost with the UK. However the UK should not forget in all this....they have more need for the EU27 than the other way around.
kippy wrote: » Simply stated, as an EU Citizen your legal rights fundamentally change when Brexit happens to varying degrees based on the deal that is or is not reached. I am not saying that the EU need Britain more than Britain needs the EU, just that the impact of this effects every single citizens rights in a way that state bailouts etc didn't and they assumption that state bailouts were 100 times worse than this cannot be backed up for a number of years. Brexit is not good for anyone.
FrancieBrady wrote: » He's playing a fairly old political game - he wants the Tories to go down in flames and knows he just has to wait, so he asks for something he knows May cannot give, in fairness to her.
A new YouGov poll for the Times put the Conservatives on 41 per cent support, six points ahead of Labour on 35 per cent. The Liberal Democrats were on 11 per cent and Ukip on 4 per cent. A BMG Research survey this week put the Tories and Labour level-pegging on 36 per cent, with the Lib Dems on 12 per cent and Ukip on 6 per cent.
bilston wrote: » I agree that it would take more polls and probably a wider margin. But it's moving in the right direction (from my POV). Of course there isn't much time left. I don't think as many people would fall for the Leavers campaign slogans in a second referendum though as did in 2016. But any campaign is going to be risky. Look at May in the UK GE in 2017. She was miles ahead of Labour going into the campaign and ended up needing the DUP to keep her in power.
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » Corby wants a GE even though he's behind in the polls. There must be something in the water over there.https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-polls-worry/ The other big takeaway here is that Lib Dems on 11% is meaningless unless there is a hung parliament. They got EIGHT seats , that's less than the DUP from 7.9% of the vote in 2015. And 11% is less than half of the 23% they got in 2010 when they got 57 Seats. Which is one more than 56 the SNP got in 2015. And the SNP have been virtually ignored in Westminster.
J Mysterio wrote: » Guardian headline for tomorrow is 'Corbyn faces revolts if he looks for second referendum'. That is very confusing indeed.
