Akrasia wrote: » Labour spokespeople coming out now saying that they still want to push for a general election
Folkstonian wrote: » I thought Michael Gove’s speech was really excellent. His appraisal of Corbyn was absolutely spot on. Im really not sure how things proceed now. It’s a bit late in the day for crisis talks between party leaders, but Labour and the SNP don’t seem interested in the offer anyway.
VinLieger wrote: » So what was the point of all that then?
Folkstonian wrote: » It’s a bit late in the day for crisis talks between party leaders, but Labour and the SNP don’t seem interested in the offer anyway.
MrMusician18 wrote: » Interesting in that he went on the attack rather than a defend the government's record. Sounded more like a stump speech tbh I have to say that it's absolutely disgraceful that MPs on the one hand overwhelmingly reject the government's flagship policy and indeed only policy then declare confidence in that same Government. Utterly spineless.
Folkstonian wrote: » No it isn’t. Do you really think Conservative MPs would, or should, ever back a motion of no confidence in their PM tabled by a far left opposition leader with a seriously unpalatable inner circle of influencers and advisors? Brexit is bad. But there are worse things that could befall the country than even leaving the EU. A Corbyn led government is one such thing and I’m glad that Tory remainers voted the way they did tonight. There are ways out of this pickle without giving Jeremy the keys to number 10
Enzokk wrote: » May will have a meeting with the other leaders of their respective parties later but Labour will not be present. They want her to take no-deal off the table and her refusal to do that means he will not meet with her.https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1085626375812403200 I would guess that meeting will be interesting with May having to eat the DUP threats of her job in their hands (their 10 votes is the swing vote in a no confidence motion) but at the same time having the SNP and Lib Dems fighting for a soft Brexit. Still won't have enough votes to get a deal through because if she goes with what the DUP wants then her rebels in her party votes it down. Strong and Stable indeed.
devnull wrote: » Unfortunately Corbyn and his comrades have decided that their mantra is no longer going to be 'for the many, not the few' and instead has become 'for me, not for you' as the power crazed Corbynistas have become so power crazed that they have completely took the eye off the ball and the fact that they are supposed to be doing what is best for the people of the country and what their members and their fellow MPs want. Jeremy Corbyn wants power and this is the only thing that concerns him right now, he is thinking about it all the time and is so obsessed with trying to achieve this that he has lost the focus on what is best for the men, women and children of the UK and to keep them in jobs, keep the healthcare system running and making sure that people are looked after. It's about time that the Labour Party stood up and was counted, but unfortunately the leadership is preventing them from doing so. This is no time for party politics and power obsessed moves, it's a time of national crisis and the politicians need to do what is right for the country rather than what is right for themselves. Unfortunately, it seems their loyalty to their party, their obsessions to remain in power and keep their jobs and blind ideology and delusions are far more important to them than the welfare of the people in the country and that is the saddest element of all about this whole farce.
Donald Trump wrote: » A swing of 10 would have been 316-315. Now imagine if only there was another party in Northern Ireland with at least two seats who could take over the mantle of having the sway of power from the DUP. That would be interesting wouldn't it. But surely they'd be over there already representing their voters....wouldn't they?
Donald Trump wrote: » Now imagine if only there was another party in Northern Ireland with at least two seats who could take over the mantle of having the sway of power from the DUP. That would be interesting wouldn't it. But surely they'd be over there already representing their voters....wouldn't they?
A Dub in Glasgo wrote: » Not this shite again
Donald Trump wrote: » What's shite about it? Fair enough if they are happy to allow the DUP free reign to have huge influence over the future of the entire island of Ireland. No point MLMcD going on RTE afterwards to moan about Leo et al if the UK government disintegrates by a single vote and results in a hard Brexit now is there? But then again, maybe that is what the people up North want - to stay under the Union Jack. If I was in such a position I'd be phoning the bould Theresa and telling her I'd send over enough votes to save her but it's either remain in the customs union or the backstop stays and a border down the Irish sea followed by a border pole in 10 years.
prinzeugen wrote: » Punishment. But there is a wee flaw in the EU plan. As one poster said "exploding toasters". The likes of Lidl and Aldi will be fecked.
Akrasia wrote: » He has so much political cover, the only remaining explanation for why he's refusing to call for a referendum is his own personal ideology.
Donald Trump wrote: » What's shite about it? Fair enough if they are happy to allow the DUP free reign to have huge influence over the future of the entire island of Ireland.
Anthracite wrote: » Aldi and Lidl are both growing like gangbusters. Strange British consumers, thrilled by cheaper (lower standard) food, but also thrilled by more expensive toasters from...where?
Hurrache wrote: » British politik continues on that downwards trajectoryhttps://twitter.com/DavidCoburnUKip/status/1085637096172335105?s=19
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » During one of the referendums down here (Lisbon?) when there were lots of claims and counter-claims, there was more than one person who voted for it because "if SF are against it ..." The only vote I could see SF voting in would be in the final one that removes NI from the UK, and even then it's unlikely. Lady Silvia is the only Anti-Brexit MP from NI, even though they voted to remain and every organisation , apart from the DUP, want to remain in the EU.
Water John wrote: » SNP, LibDems & Plaid Cumyru are also telling TM that she needs to take No Deal Brexit. They'll be telling her that tonight. Don't think there'll be any further talks until she does. Not a remarakably diff stance to Lb.
Donald Trump wrote: » Based on the figures 91% of Northern Irish votes are pro-Brexit and pro-hard border/no-deal. The NI voters vote for their representatives and those representatives go to London and vote on the public's behalf. And 91% of those representative votes are pro-Brexit. There is no difference between an individual not using their vote in an election an MP not using their vote in Parliament. Not participating removes your right to moan about it afterwards. Especially if your vote could have changed the outcome. If SF don't want to go. That's fine. If the voters up North are happy for them not to go then that is fine too. Just don't moan about it afterwards lads. Your decisions have consequences which are apparent and known from the outset.
