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M7 - Naas/Newbridge Bypass Upgrade [Junction 9a now open]

JupiterKid

Following on from the suggestion of a poster, this thread has been set up to discuss the need for widening the M7.

The section of the M7 IMO in immediate need (really a backlog need) for widening is the section from the Maudlins Interchange at Naas to the M9 interchange - basically the original 1983 Naas Bypass and half of the 1993 Newbridge Bypass. Is this likely to proceed in the near future?

Would the central median be wide enough for widening to D3M here? I'm pretty sure it is wide enough on the Newbridge bypass section but I'm not so sure in the case of the Naas Bypass.

Also, what bridges will need to be demolished and rebuilt? Or would it be more practical to drop the hard shoulder through the existing bridges?

What about the proposal a few years back to build a new junction at on the Naas Bypass at Osberstown? Will it still go ahead?

In the longer term, does anyone see a need to widen the M7 to the N7/M8 junction?

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pad199207

Major Gas Leak at the Naas South Junction. Wonder did anybody hit anything.

https://www.facebook.com/540079676081294/posts/2046415742114339/

toe_knee

I may double check when I get home. Caught on the 24th so not 28 days over. Very possible misread

[Deleted User]

toe_knee wrote: »

That's assuming the fines are 80. I got a fine of 120. I need to ring them about it during the week to see why it was so high

It's €120 if not paid within 28 days, you either misread the notice or it's a second notice.

toe_knee

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Saw tonight coming home, the number of offenders is now 4,678, which equates to €374,240.

Well now...........

That's assuming the fines are 80. I got a fine of 120. I need to ring them about it during the week to see why it was so high

ZX7R

Driving home this morning got me thinking,if the cold weather that may come at the end of the month.if the m7 does get hit by a fall of snow the whole works and roads are just going to be a complete stand still the way the road works are layed out it would be near impossible to clear the snow away.
Food for thought.

FredFunk

road_high wrote: »

Park and ride would be fantastic alright and would take a lot of traffic off the M7. Pity we don’t have a rail company actually interested in selling a service

You need to have the DART underground in place. If you were offered a service where you could park your car at Sallins P+R and get a train right into the city centre (not just Heuston nor the slow Phoenix Park Tunnel) it would be a no brainer. There would be no harm in building it now as you would get certain customers).

pad199207

road_high wrote: »

Park and ride would be fantastic alright and would take a lot of traffic off the M7. Pity we don’t have a rail company actually interested in selling a service

I know, and to think they have a new disused station up at Kishogue doing nothing.

road_high

pad199207 wrote: »

Yes, a real wasted opportunity in terms of a New Rail Station and P+R facility.

Park and ride would be fantastic alright and would take a lot of traffic off the M7. Pity we don’t have a rail company actually interested in selling a service

jmkennedyie

marno21 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/m7-three-lane-motorway-to-open-ahead-of-schedule-in-april-1.3753743

Reduced speed limits to remain in operation until the project is complete in early 2020. It's unclear if this is the entire stretch or just the parts around the interchange works.

Yep confusing. Article also says "The motorway’s speed limit is scheduled to be reassessed once the three lanes open in April, according to TII."

pad199207

sea12 wrote: »

What a ****e interview by Newstalk guy. No questions on why they didn’t look for earlier completion opportunity, no talk of park and ride option etc

Yes, a real wasted opportunity in terms of a New Rail Station and P+R facility.

sea12

mydiscworld wrote: »

https://www.newstalk.com/Traffic-chaos-on-the-N7-could-be-over-by-April

What a ****e interview by Newstalk guy. No questions on why they didn’t look for earlier completion opportunity, no talk of park and ride option etc

sea12

marno21 wrote: »

3 lanes to be open on M7 from April. The 2 interchanges and the Sallins bypass to open in early 2020.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/m7-three-lane-motorway-to-open-ahead-of-schedule-in-april-1.3753743

Reduced speed limits to remain in operation until the project is complete in early 2020. It's unclear if this is the entire stretch or just the parts around the interchange works.

The director of services of Kildare council on Newstalk this morning mentioned September I think.

marno21

jvan wrote: »

When its finished will it be 120 or 100 like the 3 lane parts of m50 and n7?

120km/h like the 3 lane stretch of the M1.

prunudo

When its finished will it be 120 or 100 like the 3 lane parts of m50 and n7?

SoupyNorman

marno21 wrote: »

...Reduced speed limits to remain in operation until the project is complete in early 2020...

Ah so close and yet so far.

marno21

3 lanes to be open on M7 from April. The 2 interchanges and the Sallins bypass to open in early 2020.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/m7-three-lane-motorway-to-open-ahead-of-schedule-in-april-1.3753743

Reduced speed limits to remain in operation until the project is complete in early 2020. It's unclear if this is the entire stretch or just the parts around the interchange works.

mydiscworld

Eoghanj wrote: »

Heard on Newstalk this morning that the 3 lanes will definitely be open by END April 2019

https://www.newstalk.com/Traffic-chaos-on-the-N7-could-be-over-by-April

Eoghanj

Heard on Newstalk this morning that the 3 lanes will definitely be open by END April 2019

Brasso

New split in the works, going southbound a few hundred metres past the Jct. 9. Driving lane continues on in the old hard shoulder, overtaking lane goes over to the new surface. So you can do most of Jct.9 to Jct. 10 on the new surface now.

Mantis Toboggan

tastyt wrote: »

In general terms, when this is done how much time will this new road knock off the morning commute time from naas to dublin city centre?

Naas to Dublin will still be 3 lanes, no difference. Coming out of Dublin should have better flow nearing naas and should save 3 or 4 minutes.

marno21

tastyt wrote: »

In general terms, when this is done how much time will this new road knock off the morning commute time from naas to dublin city centre?

It's hard to tell because most of the time spent sitting in traffic at Naas will now just be spent at a longer queue approaching the M50. There will also be more traffic entering the M7 quicker due to the new Sallins bypass junction, along with improved throughput from the relocated J10.

The real time savings will be outbound in the evenings where the lane split at the M7/M9 merge won't be a bottleneck, along with the improved access at the 2 new junctions at Naas

tastyt

In general terms, when this is done how much time will this new road knock off the morning commute time from naas to dublin city centre?

Chris_5339762

Thats gone up by 2000 since before Christmas. Excellent.

marno21

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Saw tonight coming home, the number of offenders is now 4,678, which equates to €374,240.

Well now...........

We'll have 3 lanes out to Monasterevin in no time at all.

WishUWereHere

Saw tonight coming home, the number of offenders is now 4,678, which equates to €374,240.

Well now...........

sea12

Working late on the junction at Kerry group this evening. At 7 there was about 7-8 excavators, bull dozers and rollers working on ramps.

riddlinrussell

jmkennedyie wrote: »

For installing piles for side pier foundation of new bridge now that traffic relocated into center lanes.

Looks like they are prioritising motorway interchange rather than bypass bridge over canal.

Anyone know if new motorway interchange at Kerry will be opened as part of 3 lane opening in a few months?

I would say it makes sense for them to get the bridge work done at the new junction (and Junction 10) while they have the majority of the roadworks present on the Motorway as it will minimise overall disruption, far fewer people are going to be inconvenienced by the canal works so they can work away on that with impunity once the main section is complete. As to the junction opening with the main road, I've not seen any particular indication of it, they might worry that it would exacerbate traffic problems through Sallins if they add another option for feeding off without fixing the capacity through the village.

BuzzFish

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Fair enough, I just thought it ironic that a building site for a private company is working while a public operation was off.

There is a large piece of blue painted machinery up on a hill at the Kerry Foods bridge. That machine hasn't moved since before Christmas. Now there may ( & I'm sure someone will say yay or nay ) be a genuine reason for this m/c parked up.

Bit off topic but that building is mainly Kerry Taste and Nutrition (formerly Kerry Ingredients). Kerry foods is just 20% of Kerry group with T&N being most of the remaining 80%. Foods have a very small footprint in the building.

Back on topic. All updates to date have stated that the Sallins bypass will be later in the year but no-one has said as yet of they would open the exists to Naas and Millennium Park in advance (with the 3 lanes).

WishUWereHere

jmkennedyie wrote: »

For installing piles for side pier foundation of new bridge now that traffic relocated into center lanes.

Looks like they are prioritising motorway interchange rather than bypass bridge over canal.

Anyone know if new motorway interchange at Kerry will be opened as part of 3 lane opening in a few months?

Wife was driving home yesterday afternoon on this stretch of road. She saw a wee puppy, but was heartbroken She couldn't stop to take the pup home.

Bloody hell, what kind of savage would dump a dog? Also, why on a Motorway?? I know someone will ask, how did the 'sumper' do it? I have no idea, but that pup didn't walk there.

Also came across this: https://www.kildarenow.com/news/kildare-senator-says-projects-like-m7-roadworks-24-hours-day/263766

Interesting, but a bit late waking up Sen. Lawlor. :rolleyes:

jmkennedyie

WishUWereHere wrote: »

There is a large piece of blue painted machinery up on a hill at the Kerry Foods bridge.

For installing piles for side pier foundation of new bridge now that traffic relocated into center lanes.

Looks like they are prioritising motorway interchange rather than bypass bridge over canal.

Anyone know if new motorway interchange at Kerry will be opened as part of 3 lane opening in a few months?