splinter65 wrote: » Dr Mark Murphy Givernment Yes campaign spokesman and minister Harrishttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rte.ie/amp/962992/
splinter65 wrote: » I live in a large market town population 10000 and there are 7 GPs surgeries and none are signed up to the programme. Why did the government tell people that all the GPs were on board? My friend is a receptionist in a large modern clinic in Roscommon and they’ve been told that after a meeting of the GPs they’re not signing up and to refer any queries to the free phone number. There was no explanation.
Calina wrote: » This does not support your claim.
splinter65 wrote: » The minister said 1000 GPs had signed the petition. Where are those GPs now?
tretorn wrote: » If you do something more than one you are repeating it.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » that article does not say that.
nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » You appear to have an issue with plurals. There is a difference between "have had a repeat abortion" and "repeat abortions". I know the letter S is a small one, but most English speakers appear to comprehend it's meaning. Since you do not, I am happy to work on it without the issues of fatigue you describe having. First, is English your first language? Always good to know when helping someone through a linguistic failing. If you have a second abortion, you have had a repeat abortion. If you have 3 or more abortions, you are someone who has had repeat abortions. Getting the difference yet? However your linguistic issues aside, the fact is you were describing this as "abortion after abortion" which is, even AT BEST, a massively disingenuous mis-reading and spin on what the figures actually say. You know it, and I know it. Only one of us is pretending you don't. The number of people actively having significantly more than a single abortion is around 3%. A figure, as I said, I am happy to see reduced. But it is not what you are painting it as. If you are tired repeating your error, then stop repeating it. Only you are to blame for your own exhaustion on this one. First the link does not say that. Secondly however this is NOT the claim you made that people here are asking you to now substantiate. You claimed the government told us ALL the GPs would be on board. ohnonotgmail helpfully bolded YOUR sentence if, as it seems you do, you have any issue remembering having written it. Where and when did they tell us this?
splinter65 wrote: » The article last May said that Simon Harris was claiming that as of May 12 2018 1000 Doctors had signed up to support the Yes campaign. Later on he was expecting most of the rest to get on board. Well either he was lying or he was misled. Which? Where are they now? 7 surgeries in our town and 11 GPs and our towns most vociferous Repealer rang them all on Monday to be informed, to her fury, that none were providing abortion services.
More than 1,000 doctors have declared their support for a repeal of the Eighth Amendment by signing a declaration which was revealed at the National Doctors Together for Yes in Dublin this morning. Doctors from every county in Ireland have added their names to the document including GPs, psychiatrists, obstetricians and medical students.
splinter65 wrote: » Ok not all but most. Or even 1000 as the minister is quite clearly claiming in this state broadcaster article . So. A. Is the article fake news? B. Was the minister lying? C. Was he misled? D. Where are the 1000 GPs? E. 200 at the last count, where are the rest?
nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » Well retracting the error is a good start. But I just re-read your link and also added the word "most" to my search. It is not there either. All the article says that I can see, is that 1000 GPs declared their support for repeal. Nothing more. Nothing less. That is a different thing entirely to declaring they would themselves provide the service. So I do not think any of your options A-E fit here, even if I was inclined to playing multiple choice. Which, for the record, I am not. Rather you appear to be taking one figure of doctors doing one thing, and mapping it in your own head to something else entirely and reading implications that are not actually there into a move only you are making.
splinter65 wrote: » Ok nozz. I take it that as a staunch supporter of abortion services for women you are entirely satisfied with the response of the country’s GPs two weeks into the introduction of these services. And that you have no questions as to the amount of co operation and input sought or made welcome from these GPs by the Department of Health in the 7 months between the referendum being carried and the introduction of services.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » so have you decided to withdraw your original nonsense claim?
splinter65 wrote: » It’s not a nonsense claim. Where are the 1000 GPs that Simon Harris said were on board? 800 of them are no shows 2 weeks in? Have you no questions about that?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » as you seem to have trouble reading an entire article i will quote the 2 important paragraphs. They are the first two paragraphs but perhaps you didnt read that far. So not 1000 GPs. Your original claim of all GPs was clearly nonsense and so clearly nonsense i can onlly presume it was a lie. No person could have honestly thought that all GPs were on board.
splinter65 wrote: » I’m glad your satisfied that out of 3000 GPs 200 are on board 8 full months after the referendum was carried. If I were a committed repealer I’d be asking some questions but I voted no, I’m not even and as I think the people are getting exactly what they deserve anyway, I really shouldn’t interfere.
splinter65 wrote: » I’m glad your satisfied that out of 3000 GPs 200 are on board 8 full months after the referendum was carried. If I were a committed repealer I’d be asking some questions
tretorn wrote: » My local GP told me she has vulnerable young girls who come to her for contraceptive advice. Her staff keep tabs on these girls so they remember to pick up their contraception and they are reminded about safe sex.The GP said these girls now wont bother about contraception or safe sex at all. It will be one abortion after the other and this is going to line someones pocket. And the Government wont be able to set up exclusion zones around premises where abortions are taking place. Irish people have a constitutional right to meet whoever they like and engage in peaceful protest. I think the only place you cant protest is in the Dail grounds but I am open to correction on that. Anyway in order to draw up exclusion zones around places where abortions are carried out the Government will have to hold another referendum to bring in laws to limit where people can meet up and associate.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Continuing to ignore reality is very worrying. You should seek medical help.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Why? What does it matter? 200 is more than enough to meet the need.
splinter65 wrote: » What is the reality as you see it? How many GPs are on board?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » you are clearly trolling now.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » The reality that 1000 GPs were never on board. which you continue to ignore.
end of the road wrote: » i believe it is, as a fundamental women's right is to be born, to grow and to exist and be part of society on an equal footing. abortion kills unborn women.
splinter65 wrote: » Ok. You don’t want to talk about the percentage of GPs who are on board, why the rest are not on board, or the impact of this dearth on abortion services in areas with zero affordable public transport. That’s fine. Talk about something else.
aloyisious wrote: » Were I to change the wording of yours above to read that abortion kills unborn rapists, what say you?
splinter65 wrote: » It kills far less rapists then women though aloyisious. Far far far less. I think we all know that’s true. It’s one thing we can all agree on. Thousands and thousands of unborn girls and some rapists.
splinter65 wrote: » So in our town (pop. 10,000) there are no GPs on board. What now for a medical card patient in a crisis pregnancy living here with no transport and no money? Is this how you pictured the service panning out?
