Tell me how wrote: » I laughed at Melanie Philips (Times journalist) who said previously Nigel Farage should be in charge of negotiations refusing to name anyone else who should lead this in May's place. Brexiteers in a nutshell.
joeysoap wrote: » Fiona was excellent on QT tonight, chaired the debate on Brexit better much better than I expected.
lawred2 wrote: » Think he described himself as being from Irish 'peasant' stock..
boggerman1 wrote: » Is that the same O'Neill that Andrew Maxwell destroyed on politics live a while ago
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » The EU signed up to it. Article 6(2) of the Lisbon treaty. So the UK has to leave the EU to leave it
joeysoap wrote: » Not often you see Neil get a mauling.
prawnsambo wrote: » Powerful and courageous speech by Lammy.
Hurrache wrote: » Before i got bored and went bed, the lady on the left of the panel, a columnist with the Times I think, claimed that Britain would have taken the EU ("these people" she called the EU at one point with a tone of disgust) to the cleaners had they a proper Brexiteer negotiation team. People are still peddling this nonsene. Nish Kumar spoke the most sense.
Peregrinus wrote: » Yes, but leaving the EU doesn't, in itself, take the UK out of the ECHR. The UK was a party to the Convention, and subject to the Court, in it's own right, and will still be after Brexit. If they want to leave the ECHR, that's a separate process. May previously advocated leaving the ECHR - in fact, she advocated this when she was still nominally a Remainer - but if I recall correctly she has now changed her position on that, and said she does not favour leaving. We could question the sincerity, or at any rate the reliability, of her new-found commitment to the ECHR, but it hardly matters. Once Brexit is acheived, May is out. It's a future Prime Minister who will decide if he or she want to fight this particular fight. (I should add: UK's continued participation in the ECHR is an explicit requirement of the Withdrawal Agreement and is likely to be an explicit requirement of any Future Relationship Agreement involving security, police, judicial, etc co-operation. Fact that this needs to be stipulated shows that people are worried about the UK leaving the ECHR, but fact that UK accepts the stipulation tends to suggest that it won't.)
Enzokk wrote: » . . . Couple of points, firstly if we are to say that Corbyn is very much a Brexiteer when he is not trying to stop Brexit but voted for it I would say the same is true of May. I believe she is as cynical as any politician out there and the same as Boris Johnson she thought the best avenue for her career was to back remaining in the EU and thus campaigned that way. Had she thought backing Leave would enhance her career she would have done so, if you look at her actions as PM and how she has tried to bend and sometimes break the rules to stay in power.
Enzokk wrote: » Then on the ECHR, am I right in thinking this is one area that if the UK leaves the ECHR it is actually in breach of the GFA?
Skelet0n wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XEj64IFzQ8&feature=youtu.be David Lammy’s speech for anyone who’d like to see it, really well said.
fergiesfolly wrote: » Incredible speech. The finest I've seen in HoC on any subject in decades. Let it be the rock that the the withdrawal of A50 is built on.
Nody wrote: » Highly doubtful; Brexiteers are unlikely to be swayed (as it goes against what they believe as "truth") and for the Remainers it contains nothing new. It's a good speech don't get me wrong but it's not going to be have a significant impact because it's said by the wrong person at the wrong time.
J Mysterio wrote: » He also gave a great speech a week or two ago. Its pinned on his twitter.
Tell me how wrote: » Some in audience on Question Time blaming the EU for the difficulty in negotiations and getting rapturous applause. Shaking my head at this.
Itssoeasy wrote: » I've given up listening to the brexit debate from the British point of view. It's obvious that a good number of the British people are completely unaware of the potential issues that may happen at the end of March. If the Republic of Ireland didn't have a land border with the UK I'd say leave them sink but I don't want even the possibility of any type of border on this island.
jmayo wrote: » I have a fair Irish experts tell us that most of export revenue is not with UK, but they appear to forget more jobs and probably more long term sustainable jobs rely on our small SMEs than some foreign multinationals and those SMEs are going to suffer big time with hard Brexit.
jmayo wrote: » There are always the muppets on there, in the audience and on the panel, that trot out the usual cr** about how brilliant and strong Britain was before EEC/EU membership and how they will be again. They usually also trot out something about World Trade as a cherry on top.
Baker, a leading figure in the backbench European Research Group (ERG), said he is drawing up specific suggestions to force the EU to come to the table. “I’m very clear what should be done. I’m clear that we can write down the right way forward and I am as confident as I can be that the right plan could rescue the negotiations for the country, the government, the Conservative party and the EU. Of course, in the usual way we will make constructive suggestions for the right way forward,” he said.
Baker declined to offer further details on his plans.
prawnsambo wrote: » The question that really needs to be asked is whether or not these exporters will be in competition with cheaper imports from the rest of the world because just about everyone exporting to Britain will be subject to the same tariffs and non-tariff barriers. And of course whether the price point including such tariffs will stop or cut back exports to Britain.
ambro25 wrote: » I was in Oxford earlier this week for business, taking the time to chat with locals (business types, but also others: hotel, bar, pub, petrol station, bus staff; British hotel guests...) and to catch national news between meetings and work. First time back in the U.K. nearly a year after brexoding, in a neck of the woods I don’t know much at all. It didn’t seem that many cared that much about Brexit. There wasn’t active disengagement from the topic as such, more like a mix of disinterest and fatalism not conducive of pursuing about the topic. At street level, it very much felt like the country’s got Brexit fatigue and has relegated the affair to background noise / ‘whatever-ism’. Not a good thing.
Tell me how wrote: » Have heard the exact same thing from friends/family living there.
josip wrote: » I've heard the same from a customer of ours, based in the City of London. 'The politicians will sort something out' was what I was told in December. Perhaps they're so focused on their domestic (only) market, that they don't see it as having any impact on them.
Folkstonian wrote: » Probably more to do with the fact that it doesn’t come naturally to English people to unload all their personal views on as controversial a topic as Brexit to a literal stranger. I know that I’d feel quite uncomfortable if I was in a pub (or a petrol station!) and a man I didn’t know asked me about Corbyn, or immigration or universal credit etc. I expect I’d politely try and bat it off! I wouldn’t confuse an outward display of apathy towards debate with being completely disinterested in the future of the country though.
