mariaalice wrote: » Threads about nurses are fascinating on boards always brings out the, misogynists, those irrational dislike of anyone with a public service type job, those who are irritated by any regard for nurses etc., and very few who acutely know what they are talking about.
Amirani wrote: » Bit sexist there? I haven't seen any anti-woman remarks or criticism. Are you equating any criticism of nurses as criticism of women?
Padraig Mor wrote: » Average staff nurse pay in Ireland is €57k as referenced in a Dail committee in the last few weeks. This includes premium payments which add - according to the unions themselves - approx 25% to the salary of the average nurse. The number of nurses (if any) on the 'plain' scale with no extras is tiny. I always find it amusing that people contort themselves to deny the simple truth that nurses in Ireland are paid very well. Or do they think that the Dept of Health are lying? They work 13 hour shifts because they want to - guaranteed premium payments, plus 3 or 4 days a week off. If I could work 3 x 13 hour days rather than 5 x 8, I'd jump at the chance.
welltodo wrote: » hopefully but the way varadker is i'd say he'll cut their pay so they have to go to australia and then he'll bring in his own kind
They’re a perfect example of when you get too many females working in one area, very little gets achieved apart from becoming eternal martyrs and whining.
Lefty Bicek wrote: » Read the thread properly. If this is not a misogynistic generalisation, then what is ?
Mooooo wrote: » Hire enough nurses to do the 3 x 8 hr shifts Mon to Thurs and 2×12 hr shifts fri to Sun. Lower cost per hour than overtime but higher cost 're pensions etc. A month of each shift so a month of Mon to Thurs earlies, days or late shifts and a month of Fri to Sun early or late shifts. Prob won't be done as unions won't want the reduced pay if overtime is reduced.
Emme wrote: » His own kind? If you mean doctors that would be great but we don't want any more politicians thanks.
professore wrote: » The reality is we pay one of the highest costs per capita for quite frankly a poor health service. Seeing my mother in excruciating pain for 3 years waiting for a hip replacement was ample evidence of that. Now I'm not blaming nurses for that but a root and branch reform of the health service is needed. It's not a bottomless pit.
mariaalice wrote: » It does not work like that the staff have to be there one way or the other nomatte how its done allowances are not overtime that is what you are mixing up. A well know political talk show host was baldering on that Scans ect should be done on a 24 hour bases and the staff made work shifts the person he was interviewing pointed out that it would require triple the staff i.e. 3 x 8 hour shifts but the interviewer keep saying no just make the current staff work shifts he just could not see his mistake.
Mooooo wrote: » As I said hire more nurses. If they are doing more hours than the standard week they are getting overtime or allowances for it. There are so many hours in the week, they all have to be covered so more nurses on a standard number of hours makes sense, particularly in a&e etc
mariaalice wrote: » If only people only got sick 9 to 5 it just dose not work the way you think.
wat24 wrote: » The average salary really are averages due to the high earners who are usually in management. I’m 6 years qualified and on 36,000. Most of the nurses working with me are on around the same. There’s far too many bed managers and nurse managers working admin roles that aren’t hands on frontline care. That’s where the money is going
Wanderer2010 wrote: » Why one earth would you want to be a nurse in this country? The odds are stacked against you from the off, between low wages, extremely high levels of stress and responsibility, working shifts and long hours. Internal politics and trying to contact the highers-up to make your case. It seems pure sadism to me- if you really want to do it and its your calling, head off to Dubai or even Britain where conditions are much better. I can safely say im earning at least twice the average nurse wage and I don't have a fraction of their stress. There are lots of jobs out there where you can clock in, do your job and not feel like a shell when you clock out. Seriously, its a mess in the nursing profession, find a new career.
Twenty Grand wrote: » The problem is there isn't enough nurses. Plenty of positions open but no one's applying because the conditions and pay is sh*t
Tell me how wrote: » Is it not the case that Irish Nurses are amongst some of the best paid in Europe?
Edgware wrote: » We all think of the hard working nurses in the A and E who deserve to be paid well. But like all public service jobs there is a good share of handy numbers such as taking blood samples, assisting the specialist at clinic etc where they are not under pressure
TheRiverman wrote: » Finding a new career doesn't solve the problems for nurses staying within the HSE.It only solves the problem for the person(s) who leave or who decide not to go into nursing at all.Running away from this broken system is not going to fix it.We need our nurses happy and stress free at their job.
Twenty Grand wrote: » The problem is there isn't enough nurses. Plenty of positions open but no one's applying because the conditions and pay is sh*t Tell me how wrote: » Is it not the case that Irish Nurses are amongst some of the best paid in Europe? Wheeliebin30 wrote: » It is but don’t underestimate how powerful the unions are and their media buddies.
Tell me how wrote: » Is it not the case that Irish Nurses are amongst some of the best paid in Europe? Wheeliebin30 wrote: » It is but don’t underestimate how powerful the unions are and their media buddies.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » It is but don’t underestimate how powerful the unions are and their media buddies.
MrMusician18 wrote: » When was the last time you were in A and E? You might have a different opinion if you were in there recently.
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