gctest50 wrote: » That's ok if it happens once in a blue moon If it's happening all the time and yer putting up with it , it's just martydom ###LMAO AGAIN.. jo public just can’t understand the reality of the job. Nothing to do with “martydom” sp And again, I said that I wasn’t complaining about it. #### Total up the hours and get them off a future days shift ( get a half-day or something ) ###Get a half day??? When you have 30 patients and a max of 3 staff nurses including yourself. Half days don’t exist on hospital wards. ###DON'T accept cash for the excess hours - they love fixing cr@p by just firing money at it Just stop work in plenty time and do your notes so you are out the door at 20:30 Unless there is a bus crash or something, you stop in good time and do yer notes and gtf out the door It's abuse at the moment. Plain and simple. F*ck that, change it
Bubbaclaus wrote: » Unions have ruined this country. They used to serve a very necessary purpose, but these days its just constant calling of strikes in order to get paid more and more.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » .....,...... changing nursing to a 4 year degree was a mistake. In 2004 70% of nurses were emigating
Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: » Unions still serve a necessary purpose, but they are usually only used for the wrong segment of the working population in Ireland currently. Unions are needed to have guaranteed working hours and pay, standard working conditions, a guaranteed pension ect. All these things are already there for people working in the public sector generally. It is private sector employees who need unions in this country. To ensure no zero hour contracts, to have guaranteed overtime payed, to be paid at least the minimum wage, to have a guaranteed pension after a set amount of working years, to have job security ect. Unions are usually fighting for the rights of the wrong segment of workers in Ireland.
Mike9832 wrote: » Should give it to the care assistants eg slaves
thomasdylan wrote: » AFAIK the last strike in the health service was to reduce duration of working shifts for doctors to a maximum of 24 hours. It was a single day strike like this proposed one where EDs stayed open and emergencies were managed normally.
Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: » Junior Doctors were treated horrendously in fairness. But that seemed like a legacy/anomaly issue when considered within the entire public sector as a whole.
professore wrote: » Why am I paying 3.5k in fees for my daughter then? Your paying admin fees and student levees, same as nurses That's part of their education. Do other pub sector jobs have unpaid placement throughout their degrees. Afaik teachers dont go on placement for the first 3 years of theirs. That's not bad at all for a starting salary. Cue the comparisons with top end 1% Google programmers. Teacher starts at 36k gardai at 29k The laundry room position will still be stuck down at that level several years hence. Nurses max out around 44k after 12 years with no further promotion/education. A teacher retires at 68k which is insane when you look at the holidays they get along with that ( https://www.education.ie/en/Education-Staff/Information/Payroll-Financial-Information/Salary-Scales/Salary-Scales.html )
Topgear on Dave wrote: » I think they deserve it. From a quick skim of the inmo payscale it seems to take about 8 years to get to 40 grand from grad. (Great cash in Cavan/Mayo general, but rubbish trying to live in in Dublin central) If you want to keep keen bright staff in the job ya gotta pay them. And I'd reckon nurses have got lots of options for other jobs to go to. However.... The other unions teachers etc etc will be watching to make claims if the nurses win, so the government will fight it, at least for a while. *Did somebody mention that they do 13 hour shifts and 7 nights in a row too? Isn't that illegal?
gctest50 wrote: » Which is lovely n all but being tired like that has the same effect as being under the influence of alcohol
kona wrote: » Plenty of other jobs that do similar hours in roles that you wouldn't be too happy to find out were performed under such conditions.......
gctest50 wrote: » Which other jobs ? Name a few .
kona wrote: » ...... People who certify and carry out maintenance on machines that carry hundreds sometimes thousands of people. .
gctest50 wrote: » What are these mysterious machines ?
mad muffin wrote: » How much do you put on your life? Your family’s? Loved ones? You want the best healthcare and you want it now, but you don’t think you should pay too much for it? How much is too much? €30K? €60K? €100K? How much did the politicians pay rise pay themselves recently because they think they are doing such a good job? Was the pay restoration not promised to the nurses? Did they get it? Did the politicians get theirs? How much of the current crisis in the health care is the governments fault? How much of it is down to the austerity measures implemented 10 years ago? The pay freeze. The levies and charged? The recruitment ban? All the money spent on agency nurses? Do you want nurses to work 50? 60? Hours per week? Do you want to be treated by someone who’s worked that many hours in a high pressure situation when your life depends on it? Do you even know what’s it like being in nurse in a hospital in Ireland? If they do get their pay rise, they deserve every single cent of it. It’s a pity they have to go on strike for it. What was promised to them. And frankly what they deserve.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » The best healtcare? We are so far from best health are. Have you been in hospital lately?
Jul 29, 2006 A nurse who exhibited "disgraceful" conduct while on duty as the sole nurse responsible for 40 patients at a nursing home must have her name erased from the nursing register, the High Court directed yesterday. It was "fortunate indeed" that none of the residents of Stella Maris Nursing Home at Commer, Tuam, Co Galway had suffered any adverse consequences from Nurse Cliona Finnegan's behaviour and lack of proper nursing care, Mr Justice Brian McGovern said. Her condition on the night in question "could be described as disgraceful" and her conduct fell seriously short of the standards to be expected among a member of the nursing profession. She had offered no proper explanation for her behaviour and he found her guilty of professional misconduct. Mr Justice McGovern was dismissing an appeal by Ms Finnegan, Kileen, Oakpark, Tralee, Co Kerry, who had been employed as a part-time nurse at Stella Maris, against a finding of professional misconduct made against her last February by the Fitness to Practise Committee of An Bord Altranais (Nursing Board). It was alleged Ms Finnegan had remained on duty on a night in August 2002 when she was not in a fit condition, thereby putting patients at risk. The committee upheld claims she caused drugs at the home to be in such disarray as to render it difficult or impossible to determine whether or to what extent they had been administered to patients. The committee also upheld allegations that she had rested or slept part of the time while she was on duty, appeared intoxicated, had a brown stain around her mouth, spoke in an incoherent manner and failed to provide any or any proper nursing care to patients. It rejected her claims that was suffering from a physical or mental disability rendering her unfit to engage in nursing, but recommended her name be struck from the nursing register. Mr Justice McGovern was told there would be two carers and a nurse on duty at night caring for 40 patients. One carer said there were delays in Ms Finnegan administering tablets. One patient had complained there was half a tablet missing but Ms Finnegan said the patient got all her tablets. A carer said that later that night, she went to answer a bell and found Ms Finnegan lying on the floor of a bedroom occupied by a married couple who were patients at the home. She was crying a lot. The judge said Ms Finnegan was found at the office station on the floor. She was put on a chair and was upset. There was a tray of medication scattered on the floor. A carer had described her voice as slurred and she was told she should get some sleep. There was a strong smell from her breath, which smell the carer couldn't identify, and a brown stain around her lips. The judge noted a nurse who had replaced Ms Finnegan as the nurse on duty noticed all the drugs mixed up in what she described as a dangerous fashion on top of the medicine trolley and a brown liquid on the floor of the medicine room. That nurse was so concerned she had phoned the proprietor.
hawkelady wrote: » As the title suggests ... do you think the government will give what the inmo is asking for ? The way pascal and Harris is talking it looks like it’s going to be a long drawn out process. Who will buckle first. Btw, I do hope the nurses get what they want and they do a great job.
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