TallGlass wrote: » Plus track work as in maintenance, someone has to drive the loco! Again, could be a case where it's a 1 in 5 week event your selected for it. To be honest, there is a bit of discussion here that I would be more thinking along the lines of cross that bridge when you come to it. Little talk here about interview which is the big hurdle. The rest comes after.
arccosh wrote: » train placement, freight... might not necessarily be "night" ...but out of hours ...finish 2 or 3, start 4 or 5 etc..
TallGlass wrote: » Just at a guess I imagine it's something like the Garda/FF work, 4 days 4 evenings 4 nights etc... with 2/4 days off in between the shift set? Rotating with weekends off maybe one in 4 or something along them lines. With 12hr shifts or 8hr shifts.
TK Lemon wrote: » What is the typical shift pattern of a driver, how often would a night shift come up?
kingshankly wrote: » Yes you go in to a booth and do a hearing test
GaGa21 wrote: » Wondering if any issues with hearing would be an issue? Are hearing tests part of the medical?
Del.Monte wrote: » What does this even mean?
dar100 wrote: » As the senior management are also getting on in age the unions will certainly wont new blood that can go from these positions to progress. Therefore, other skills and demograohics will be needed outside of the basic driving skills. There is a much bigger picture at play here outside of just hiring train drivers. I was literally in connelly last night and honest to god ive never seen such a wore out and demottivated old looking work force. The wall was holding up one of the supervisors:)
n!ghtmancometh wrote: » All depends if those folks can pass the tests though, they are a leveller of the playing field, same with most public jobs. I took part in the executive officer recruitment campaign in the civil service (I'm a clerical officer in the civil service about 3 years at the moment) and did really well and made the 1st round of interviews. There's excellent people I work with who have been in my job for 5/10 years who have all the experience to be a very good executive officer, but they couldn't pass the entrance exams. So those people you mentioned might well be more suited to being a train driver, but how suited are they at doing well in the required exams to get to the interview stage?
arccosh wrote: » I'm sure there is, as with any recruitment drive of this amount. But still, someone who has been in a safety related role for a number of years, may already have that management experience. For example, PDF Sergant rank basic pay would be less than starting pay for this. This is someone who has managerial experience, lots of safety training, situational awarenes etc.. It will be interesting how many go past the video day.
oleras wrote: I know general welbeing, BMI etc are also included but just on the cardiac stuff. Would a previous cardiac episode rule one out ?
arccosh wrote: » I think people fail to realise how small Ireland is on many levels in respect to industry size and the amount of people applying for jobs... unfortunately times have changed, yes its horrible the catch 22 of applying for an entry level job, but requiring 5-10years experience in the process.. But unfortunately, that's how things are in a small level industry where they have the pick of the bunch from applicants... it's the same in the technology and pharma sectors also... majority of external applicants will either have: -Luas experience -Temp work for CIE -Bus Driving experience -PDF/Garada experience -International railway experience That pool alone, without the added applicants with other sector experience will make this an interesting, but cut throat competition. That's how it is these days, it's rare (especially in Ireland) you'll get a company that will hold you're hand from start to finish... they want someone to hit the ground running, or be almost in the position to without having to do much work.
whisky_galore wrote: » Yeah, bring back the 'engine cleaners' and a small army of porters to handle passengers' steamer trunks.:D
L1011 wrote: » Why? Add a huge cost to satisfy someone's desire for the old days?
Del.Monte wrote: » Anyway, perhaps an entry grade should be introduced to bring new people into the company and then progress them?
Del.Monte wrote: » There's no need to be smart as I started my comment with the words 'in the past' but you and our esteemed mod seem to miss that. I'm not familiar with all the various jobs still available but I would have thought that they include station staff (the few that seem to be left), ticket office staff, and travelling ticket checkers? Anyway, perhaps an entry grade should be introduced to bring new people into the company and then progress them? As for most people now progressing to third level: https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp10esil/p10esil/tl/
whisky_galore wrote: » Most everyone goes to third level now, how does one get this 'actual experience' pray tell?
Del.Monte wrote: » In the past, many/most train drivers would have started out at platform level and worked their way up - the proper way of doing things rather than parachuting people in. However, parachuting people with college backgrounds in above people who have actual experience is common throughout every walk of life.
oleras wrote: » A quick google of the loco drivers medical just includes an ECG, It doesn't mention anything that would auto rule you out, like previous cardiac issues, one would assume it would be very strict on any current medical issues, is this the case? I know general welbeing, BMI etc are also included but just on the cardiac stuff. Would a previous cardiac episode rule one out ?
