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Leinster v Ulster 5 Jan Match Thread

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Cronin in for the first try

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[Deleted User]

Dowling has been very good in his moments. Have to be happy with that as a debutant!

mangobob

Happy with that. Performance deserved that final try.

troyzer

Adam Byrne is rapidly becoming undroppable.

It looks like he's finally able to tackle and hit hard which was the only thing ever stopping him.

I have no idea why everyone kept dropping the ball and flailing around with loose passes in the last 20 minutes

Hurrache

troyzer wrote: »

I have no idea why everyone kept dropping the ball and flailing around with loose passes in the last 20 minutes

It's the first real cold night of rugby, it's freezing, maybe they don't have their cold weather fingers rolled out.

troyzer

Hurrache wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

I have no idea why everyone kept dropping the ball and flailing around with loose passes in the last 20 minutes

It's the first real cold night of rugby, it's freezing, maybe they don't have their cold weather fingers rolled out.

It's fairly cold I suppose.

Burkie1203

troyzer wrote: »

Adam Byrne is rapidly becoming undroppable.

It looks like he's finally able to tackle and hit hard which was the only thing ever stopping him.

I have no idea why everyone kept dropping the ball and flailing around with loose passes in the last 20 minutes

Trying too hard for a highlight reel moment. Forcing things too much.

Squidgy Black

troyzer wrote: »

Adam Byrne is rapidly becoming undroppable.

It looks like he's finally able to tackle and hit hard which was the only thing ever stopping him.

I have no idea why everyone kept dropping the ball and flailing around with loose passes in the last 20 minutes

This is one of those games where it won't really standout too much. The Ulster backs were getting blown off in the tackles constantly.

He'll most definitely be dropped if the back 3 of Lowe/Larmour/RK are available for selection.

The Iron Giant

Felt like I was the only one shouting at the match. Desperately quiet around me and a significant number left around the 60 mark.

Delighted with the result but the bonus point before half time really killed the match.

Dubinusa

Can someone pop it on YouTube. Palllleeeeze

Synode

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Forward off your thigh is a knock on

Worth a try though

I thought it was only a knock on if comes off the hand or arm

prawnsambo

Synode wrote: »

I thought it was only a knock on if comes off the hand or arm

Nope. Above the knee and below the neck.

Synode

prawnsambo wrote: »

Nope. Above the knee and below the neck.

Can you point me to where it says that in the laws?

The Lost Sheep

Synode wrote: »

Can you point me to where it says that in the laws?

A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it

Synode

So, only the hand or arm?

troyzer

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Synode wrote: »

Can you point me to where it says that in the laws?

A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it

So it wasn't a knock on.

Try should have stood.

irishbucsfan

Sometimes I dunno about these people. Are they even people?

bilston

Sobering night, decent shifts from McBurney, Jones and Hume.

We were very passive in defence, I guess that maybe comes down to it being a team that hasn't played together before and therefore not trusting each other to press the opposition.

I'm just glad the match is out of the way for another year.

Now for the real business of January...Racing, Leicester and Benetton.

Synode

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Sometimes I dunno about these people. Are they even people?

I've no idea what this means or if it's aimed at me. I'm genuinely curious as to where it says above the knee and below the neck. If it is indeed correct, you'd wonder how Stockdale's try against England stood as it looks to me like it hit him above the knee

molloyjh

Best moment of the match today was at the end of the game, the Ulster kit man popped over to one of the girls on the terrace asking if he’d seen her with a hip flask.

“Yeah” she says.

“What’s in it” he says

“Whiskey”

“Can I have some”

“Of course, here you go.”

He heads off and comes back a few mins later with one of the players jackets for her.

I love this game.

durkadurka

molloyjh wrote: »

Best moment of the match today was at the end of the game, the Ulster kit man popped over to one of the girls on the terrace asking if he’d seen her with a hip flask.

“Yeah” she says.

“What’s in it” he says

“Whiskey”

“Can I have some”

“Of course, here you go.”

He heads off and comes back a few mins later with one of the players jackets for her.

I love this game.

Please tell me it was binoculars shaped

molloyjh

durkadurka wrote: »

Please tell me it was binoculars shaped

Haha, I’m afraid not. Standard hip flask.

Buer

Uninspiring game. It was over as a contest after the COB try as it completely deflated Ulster. It's hard to really get a feel for anyone who played really well as it has to be tempered by the fact that they face second/third string opponents on both sides.

With that said, I thought Josh Murphy, Molony and Reid had very tidy and under appreciated performances for Leinster. They all were the nuts and bolts to a solid win. There was one moment early after half time where we recycled just inside the Ulster half next to the sideline where Molony went in to play scrum half. I expected him to pick and go or pop it but he lashed a spin pass not only outside but I think he skipped first and possibly second receiver to a forward in midfield. His skills tonight were excellent (we were Deegan's whose hands were superb a couple of times).

Reid was very composed. When there was nothing on, he made something happen by finding a half gap, getting over the gain line and resetting. His passing was superb. There was a ridiculous wrist only pass to Byrne on the wing which created a break. `

Murphy just got through a mountain of work. He carried, he tackled and he was prominent in the set piece. Great showing.

awec

In terms of Ulster, that was total garbage. Hard to watch. McCall will never make it at this level. McPhillips is deeper than the Titanic. Hume and Cave couldn't tackle a fish supper. Shanahan... what's the point?

troyzer

awec wrote: »

In terms of Ulster, that was total garbage. Hard to watch. McCall will never make it at this level. McPhillips is deeper than the Titanic. Hume and Cave couldn't tackle a fish supper. Shanahan... what's the point?

It seemed to me that every single Ulster player was too small/weak for their position.

Every one of them was bullied by their opposite number.

Clegg

Strange game. I didn't think Leinster were that great or Ulster poor. Yet the result was 40-7. Just a complete mismatch in physicality.

Dubinusa

There is a gulf in depth, no doubt. But, some of Ulsters lads are only coming back after long spells on the physio table.
Herbst and Lyttle come to mind and O'Connor is out about a month also.
I agree that McCall is below the required level and may never be a good option.
On a different perspective, Leinsters young players share the training paddock with some world class operators.
That fact alone probably makes them that much better.
It's a good victory for us and a poor defeat for Ulster, but all of the younger players will hopefully have learned from the experience.

Thermoman12

troyzer wrote: »

It seemed to me that every single Ulster player was too small/weak for their position.

Every one of them was bullied by their opposite number.

They’re not familiar playing together as a team and just probably didn’t have the confidence in them and weren’t expecting to win from the start and you could tell that from the first half especially the way they were sliding off tackles and not trusting their inside man, tackling all comes down to attitude, not size or strength

troyzer

Thermoman12 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

It seemed to me that every single Ulster player was too small/weak for their position.

Every one of them was bullied by their opposite number.

They’re not familiar playing together as a team and just probably didn’t have the confidence in them and weren’t expecting to win from the start and you could tell that from the first half especially the way they were sliding off tackles and not trusting their inside man, tackling all comes down to attitude, not size or strength

That would explain why they didn't play well in general but that scrum was in constant danger of collapse and it looked like they all lost all of their collisions in open play.

I agree that there was an attitude problem but you shouldn't be getting rolled over constantly.

They were visibly smaller as well. Daly must have 10kg on Lyttle, same on the other side with Byrne and Kernohan.

Dubinusa

Kernahan is just u20. Has played a little senior rugby this season.
The lad will develop.
Adam Byrne is much more experienced and has an international cap.
It's great to see Daly back!
Really thought he was going great last season. He's got serious finishing ability.
All in all, fantastic result for Leinster.

[Deleted User]

Synode wrote: »

Can you point me to where it says that in the laws?

It doesn't.