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Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-mumofseven-margaret-cash-appears-in-court-over-stealing-300-worth-of-clothes-from-penneys-37434491.html

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holliehobbie

Just did a quick google there and found a translation of the Lord's prayer in Cant. Oh the irony!

mcmoustache

I thought cant was just a form of pig-latin applied to irish? For example, instead of "cailín" they would say "leacaín". Basically, they just switch around the first and second consonant while leaving the vowels as they are (kaleen -> lakeen).

eeepaulo

They use cant all the time.

Cant expect me to pay tax
Cant expect me to get a job
Cant expect me to pay for housing
Cant expect me to provide for my kids

tuxy

Looks like there could be a new addition to the Cash family in 2019!

tayto lover

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Cant is not a distinct language. It is a variation of Irish and I have never heard it spoken by a traveller. It's probably how Irish is recognised on an international level as one of our national languages, yet only 12,000 out of a population of nearly 5 million speak it on a daily basis. Are there any books/literature written in Cant (being serious here, not sarcastic).

I hear them speaking Can't regularly.

Can't pay taxes.
Can't work.
Can't stop fighting.
Can't be arsed.

Spanish Eyes

Mostly horrible people. Those who are not will just get on with it like the rest of us and take their turn and be ok.

I am sorry now but having been the recipient of many a vitriolic outburst in A+E, and the shouting and roaring, I have absolutely no time for them.

No one should really. They are vermin.

Jerichoholic

tuxy wrote: »

Looks like there could be a new addition to the Cash family in 2019!

I wish her all the best with someone who can't spell his own name.

goose2005

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Cant is not a distinct language. It is a variation of Irish and I have never heard it spoken by a traveller. It's probably how Irish is recognised on an international level as one of our national languages, yet only 12,000 out of a population of nearly 5 million speak it on a daily basis. Are there any books/literature written in Cant (being serious here, not sarcastic).

Shelta is just like pig-Latin or Verlan

PuppyMcPupFace

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I wish her all the best with someone who can't spell his own name.

Matched up better than even Cilla could manage!

[Deleted User]

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I wish her all the best with someone who can't spell his own name.

Cant

blanch152

maninasia wrote: »

How come they have their own dialect/language and distinct culture then ?

I have asked this question before and I still haven't got an answer.

I know that traveller culture believes in taking girls out of education around the age of 12, marrying them off to close relatives by the time they are 15/16 and turning them into obedient baby factories after that. What is so special about that culture?

I also know that homophobia is intrinsically part of traveller culture also.

So, can someone tell me some of the redeeming features of traveller culture? Someone once referenced their family values culture, but that is used to oppress women so I wonder what exactly is so valuable and good and decent about traveller culture?

And yes, Catholic culture has its bad features (oppression of women) and so does African culture (FGM) and Islamic culture (oppression of women too), but they all have their valuable contributions to art and music, for example. What has traveller culture to offer?

Ronaldinho

blanch152 wrote: »

What has traveller culture to offer?

Entrepreneurship

Dillosk412

Her fellow kind

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/security-man-seriously-hurt-in-miniriot-at-hotels-bar-37676990.html

Why is it that places of business cannot simply refuse these people without having to give reason as its quite apparent that the vast majority of travellers take part in some form of criminality / violence / theft / scam.
Simply, from my own point of view and having experienced "Irish Travellers" in Britain up to last April when I moved home, they as a group, are a scourge on society and should be treated as such in their entirety and without exception.

The minority of travellers (they don't travel anymore) who do not engage in criminality should simply denounce their attachment to that criminal grouping

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Jerichoholic wrote: »

I wish her all the best with someone who can't spell his own name.

Other reality is that he's a convicted criminal. They'll often bastardise their names on purpose to fly under the radar from the authorities.

Mad_maxx

Travellers never surprise you, another trashed hotel story today from wicklow

davo2001

blanch152 wrote: »

And yes, Catholic culture has its bad features (oppression of women) and so does African culture (FGM) and Islamic culture (oppression of women too), but they all have their valuable contributions to art and music, for example. What has traveller culture to offer?

Cheaaaap Copper boss :pac:

Jerichoholic

Dillosk412 wrote: »

Her fellow kind

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/security-man-seriously-hurt-in-miniriot-at-hotels-bar-37676990.html

Why is it that places of business cannot simply refuse these people without having to give reason as its quite apparent that the vast majority of travellers take part in some form of criminality / violence / theft / scam.
Simply, from my own point of view and having experienced "Irish Travellers" in Britain up to last April when I moved home, they as a group, are a scourge on society and should be treated as such in their entirety and without exception.

The minority of travellers (they don't travel anymore) who do not engage in criminality should simply denounce their attachment to that criminal grouping

Great stuff by the Irish media again forgetting to mention they were travelers, as if this happens every day with normal people. Yes I said normal people.

h2005

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Great stuff by the Irish media again forgetting to mention they were travelers, as if this happens every day with normal people. Yes I said normal people.

It does:

"Gardaí suspect that the main protagonists in the "mini-riot" were Traveller criminals who live in counties Dublin and Wicklow."

Jerichoholic

h2005 wrote: »

It does:

"Gardaí suspect that the main protagonists in the "mini-riot" were Traveller criminals who live in counties Dublin and Wicklow."

So it does. I only saw "those who are suspected of being involved have links to some of the most prolific burglary crime gangs"

Paddy Cow

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Great stuff by the Irish media again forgetting to mention they were travelers, as if this happens every day with normal people. Yes I said normal people.

You must've missed where they were called out as Travellers and criminals -

Garda suspect that the main protagonists in the "mini-riot" were Traveller criminals who live in counties Dublin and Wicklow.....

..."Some of those who are suspected of being involved have links to some of the most prolific burglary crime gangs and gardaill be following this up," they added.

Jerichoholic

Paddy Cow wrote: »

You must've missed where they were called out as Travellers and criminals -

Again.

Yes.

mynamejeff

h2005 wrote: »

It does:

"Gardaí suspect that the main protagonists in the "mini-riot" were Traveller criminals who live in counties Dublin and Wicklow."

In fact the royal hotel where this happened is and has been used to house homeless family's from Dublin and Wicklow .

this includes a number of familys of travellers and of criminals from inner city dubin. same hotel where a man was killed in a fight during the summer

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklowpeople/news/community-stunned-by-death-of-quiet-and-friendly-vincent-45-37003371.html

both of those involved in the murder were locals though

tuxy

It's terrible Joe!

punisher5112

Absolutely shocking culture if one could call it that....

Tilikum17

My sister is has been in Disneyland for the last three weeks. She said the amount of travellers there is crazy.

punisher5112

Tilikum17 wrote: »

My sister is has been in Disneyland for the last three weeks. She said the amount of travellers there is crazy.

They have to spend their(our) money somehow...

They need to show they have absolutely nathin.... here.

Drain on society.

I can't understand really can't why we have to pay their way.

The USA system would cop them on very quickly.

rafatoni

Hopefully casey was a watershed moment in society, this lot should not be tolerated.

They cauae carnage everywhere and offer nothing.

BattleCorp

tuxy wrote: »

It's terrible Joe

Why the fcuk does Joe Duffy keep asking 'how do you know they are travellers'? He must have asked that question 10 times.

The bar owner told Joe they told him they were Irish travellers living in England and Joe asked him twice more after that how did he know that they were travellers.

You don't need to be fcuking Einstein to recognise a group of 60 travellers.

anewme

The aul fella who came on was priceless though!

And probably given them the idea to all go over for the Paddy's week festival.

Mad_maxx

Tilikum17 wrote: »

My sister is has been in Disneyland for the last three weeks. She said the amount of travellers there is crazy.

It makes flawless sense that travellers would flock to Disney land

As I said earlier, travellers never surprise you