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Irish Rail Jobs Discussion

Hilly Bill

There was someone on here asking about jobs in Irish rail, check out their site. They are hiring for the city centre re signalling.

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Working class heroes

I’d say you could have a lot of Luas drivers applying for these. Better canteen facilities.

ongarboy

It sounds like female candidates might get priority consideration as IR are also looking to address the gender imbalance of only 4 current train drivers being female.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0102/1019897-train-drivers/

GM228

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Nope, anyone internal can apply as well and there will be a shortage due to retirements etc.

I never said they couldn't, but, there will no longer be a separate internal process apparently, also there is a long standing legacy agreement which pre dates CIE that they would not be advertised externally without union agreement, this was confirmed in the WRC as recent as last year by IE management when they indicated a wish to go external.

I remember you previously saying "nobody will give a fiddlers" if this happens, well, the union correspondence has already started, and they are not happy to say the least.

TallGlass

Anyone taken the tests yet? How they find them..

goingnowhere

There simply isn't enough people internally who

1. Want the job
2. Who are capable of passing the medical and the battery of tests (good old group bourdon test)
3. Will get past the interview

- who has already tried and has failed to get through the process

The DART has been an external hire operation for a decade. Union really hasn't a leg to stand on here, it cannot make a cost increasing claim and the number of drivers needed goes way beyond what could be sourced internally. The arrival of the EU train drivers license also opens the door to hire people from the EU with experience who are already certified to meet the medical and other competencies.

Stephen15

ongarboy wrote: »

It sounds like female candidates might get priority consideration as IR are also looking to address the gender imbalance of only 4 current train drivers being female.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0102/1019897-train-drivers/

Not right people should be given the job based on their competency not gender

khaldrogo

How many electrified lines do they have?? I couldn't find the info on line or on their site.

Hilly Bill

GM228 wrote: »

I never said they couldn't, but, there will no longer be a separate internal process apparently, also there is a long standing legacy agreement which pre dates CIE that they would not be advertised externally without union agreement, this was confirmed in the WRC as recent as last year by IE management when they indicated a wish to go external.

I remember you previously saying "nobody will give a fiddlers" if this happens, well, the union correspondence has already started, and they are not happy to say the least.

If they moan about this then they are dicks.

john boye

GM228 wrote: »

I remember you previously saying "nobody will give a fiddlers" if this happens, well, the union correspondence has already started, and they are not happy to say the least.

I know anything is possible with that lot but surely they haven't a leg to stand on if the positions were offered internally and the applicants were unsuccessful?

ChikiChiki

I suspect there will be a huge volume of applications from highly skilled professionals from the private sector.

Less stress and a decent enough salary for a cushy number. It's a no brainer for many.

L1011

khaldrogo wrote: »

How many electrified lines do they have?? I couldn't find the info on line or on their site.

One with a small branch

sjb25

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I suspect there will be a huge volume of applications from highly skilled professionals from the private sector.

Less stress and a decent enough salary for a cushy number. It's a no brainer for many.

And from the public sector I’m in a skilled job in the public sector and they make more than me I’m seriously considering applying anyway then deciding if I get that far

Infini

goingnowhere wrote: »

The DART has been an external hire operation for a decade.

Its only been advertised really internally through the 3 companies and of course they took some people as well from the Dash project. Realistically this is the first outright hiring off the street.

I'm not sure why the union is objecting we know staff pools have been exhaused internally hence the hiring externally. Just be warned its not exactly an easy job that some think it is.

MayoSalmon

Stephen15 wrote: »

Not right people should be given the job based on their competency not gender

Welcome to the 2019 progressive Ireland.....

[Deleted User]

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I suspect there will be a huge volume of applications from highly skilled professionals from the private sector. ..............

I don't know many highly skilled professionals who want to work weekends etc driving a train for €45k tbh.

GM228

goingnowhere wrote: »

The DART has been an external hire operation for a decade.

It has not, only in recent years has driving (DART and diesel) t been opened to other CIE companies.

goingnowhere wrote: »

Union really hasn't a leg to stand on here, it cannot make a cost increasing claim and the number of drivers needed goes way beyond what could be sourced internally

What cost increasing claim?

goingnowhere wrote: »

The arrival of the EU train drivers license also opens the door to hire people from the EU with experience who are already certified to meet the medical and other competencies.

The EU driver licence only satisfies minimum standards, you must still satisfy the standards applicable to the organisation you apply to.

Hilly Bill

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I suspect there will be a huge volume of applications from highly skilled professionals from the private sector.

Less stress and a decent enough salary for a cushy number. It's a no brainer for many.

Don't know about the cushy number and the less stress bit.

dashoonage

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Don't know about the cushy number and the less stress bit.

How so ?

Hilly Bill

Stephen15 wrote: »

Not right people should be given the job based on their competency not gender

Agree but they won't compromise the ability to do the job in favour of gender quota.

Hilly Bill

dashoonage wrote: »

How so ?

It's not a stress free job especially when someone decides to jump in front of you.

Ray Bloody Purchase

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Don't know about the cushy number and the less stress bit.

It can be fairly stressful when your union fails to negotiate enough 'handy' as required turns on your roster.

verfold

How does the driver depot structure in Dublin work, ie where are the drivers based and is routes and traction linked or does everyone at a particular depot drive all traction and routes?
Who drives the enterprise, Dublin men or is it run by NIR? Thanks if anyone could help. ...

Jamie2k9

verfold wrote: »

How does the driver depot structure in Dublin work, ie where are the drivers based and is routes and traction linked or does everyone at a particular depot drive all traction and routes?
Who drives the enterprise, Dublin men or is it run by NIR? Thanks if anyone could help. ...

Heuston, Connolly, Fairview, you drive what operates from the depot.

Enterprise is operated both companies. Think a lot of Dundalk drivers run it but assume Connolly ones do as well. You are required to drive routes operated out of that depot.

whisky_galore

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I suspect there will be a huge volume of applications from highly skilled professionals from the private sector.

Less stress and a decent enough salary for a cushy number. It's a no brainer for many.

Maybe they think it's a cushy number if their only knowledge of loco driving is watching Thomas the Tank Engine.

khaldrogo

L1011 wrote:

One with a small branch

Got that wrong so!

I said 2. I thought they might distinguish between the passenger and freight services

TallGlass

TallGlass wrote: »

Anyone taken the tests yet? How they find them..

Interesting test, can't see why anyone internally wouldn't pass it as they'd be at more an advantage.

L1011

khaldrogo wrote: »

Got that wrong so!

I said 2. I thought they might distinguish between the passenger and freight services

There are distinctions in driver pools between electric, diesel multiple unit and locomotive (cork, Belfast, freight) I believe

Jamie2k9

L1011 wrote: »

There are distinctions in driver pools between electric, diesel multiple unit and locomotive (cork, Belfast, freight) I believe

Could be taking you up wrong but loco drivers drive DMUs as do Freight.

verfold

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Could be taking you up wrong but loco drivers drive DMUs as do Freight.

So are these jobs for locomotive drivers or dmu drivers? Surely they wouldn't be taking on trainee locomotiveslike drivers??
Out of interest how far do HEuston drivers get? As far as Cork?

Jamie2k9

verfold wrote: »

So are these jobs for locomotive drivers or dmu drivers? Surely they wouldn't be taking on trainee locomotiveslike drivers??
Out of interest how far do HEuston drivers get? As far as Cork?

Both, but probably DMU to start with.

Heuston drivers (and Portlaoise) do Cork, Waterford, Westport, Galway and PPT. Open to correction but don't do Kerry/Ballina/Limerick branches. Probally cleared to Limerick but not sure about others.

Many Heuston services are operated by drivers based around the country.