1st dalkey dalkey wrote: » Good luck working with the lamp who is in charge over there. As to France' seat on the Security Council, well it will likely change to an EU seat about the same time as India takes over the UK seat.
Anthracite wrote: » What about the militarization of the UK? How do we stop this?
cryptocurrency wrote: » Wouldn't take much effort by either. The EU just needs to not get too big for its boots. Lucky they are mostly tinpot militaries in the EU without much world class tech. UK and US should keep it that way.
cryptocurrency wrote: » That hasn't a hope in hell of happening. The renewal of Trident, all the new aircraft carriers, new standard sub fleet, new frigates, all the new F35Bs...EU/France have invested nowt nor has any solid plans too and India ditto. The UK has a global base network which they have agreed to expand. I actually think this is what this is all about. France has raised a white flag to Brussels to stay relevant and the UK has engineered this all to slip out of the EU and ensure that it continues to make decisions at the top table, both militarily and financially.
PeadarCo wrote: To be fair it would have. If you had a leader who ensured the UK had an agreed upon position on Brexit before triggering article 50 it would have made negotiations far easier. With about 3 months to go before Brexit there is still no agreed position on Brexit. The UK has a fairly bespoke deal that is arguably far better than what would have been expected this time last year. However it pleases no one because it's a compromise deal.
cryptocurrency wrote: » You can't. You have decades of spending while the UK remains static along with training and operational activity to even try to climb to a level playing field. Even on intelligence, the EU nations are a fairly tin pot with British intelligence being their main source of info.
prawnsambo wrote: » Sorry mate, the UK can't afford to put aircraft on those carriers. They'll make good container ships though.
Anthracite wrote: » I suppose when logic fails, you can start throwing insults. It's the UKIP playbook.
Anthracite wrote: » So let me get this straight: you are simultaneously scared of the EU military co-operation, and contemptuous of what they are capable of? What bilge.
cryptocurrency wrote: » Not scared. I don't think anyone is scared. Wary. I would say London and Washington are wary of letting the EU army every becoming anything more then what it has been...they are like 5th XV Juniors of a premiership team,
cryptocurrency wrote: » what are you talking about. They have just bought F35s for this very purpose and have received some of the 140 plus order already. That was what the whole debate about getting ride of the harrier a decade earlier was so controversial. There is an aircraft carrier with F35Bs which has just come back from the Pacific which has been on an exercise. I know someone who got an award for its first bombhead.
Folkstonian wrote: » Why lower yourself to that silly poster’s level? You know this isn’t the case.
cryptocurrency wrote: » https://www.defensenews.com/breaking-news/2018/09/28/with-historic-first-f-35b-landings-on-hms-queen-elizabeth-the-uk-is-back-in-the-saddle-of-carrier-aviation/ 3 new state of the art aircraft carriers in production and I'm sure more will be added. There is a campaign to get some of the new frigate fleet made in the H&W yard in Belfast which would be a great economic boost to the area. I'm sure you will all support it.
Folkstonian wrote: » Britain has a fairly effective intelligence set up. But so do the French. It’s often attributed to the fact that both as large post-imperial powers had to get good at knowing who was doing what, and what kind of threat they posed to the state in places like Algeria, Northern Ireland etc The Germans used to be ruthlessly efficient but obviously they hit the reset button But importantly we are on the same side these days 99% of the time, sharing information, confronting threats, and not competing.
cryptocurrency wrote: » Same sides do not block planes, medicine, boats, cheese for wanting to enact the will of the people to leave their club and just be trading neighbours. They start that carry on they are not friends but the most hostile of enemies.
prawnsambo wrote: » The surprise emergence of the Baltic states as a top class provider of intelligence has been... surprising. Possibly not, but certainly to me. Have seen them mentioned a number of times by people who would know about these things.
lawred2 wrote: » ah ffs the EU has been front and centre in its dealings with the UK in order to sign a WA that ensures a transition where nothing gets 'blocked'
Anthracite wrote: » Idiocy. Nobody is blocking any boats. Extremists in the UK are about to walk the UK into a postion where there is no legal framework for trade. This is not news, or secret - you can learn all about this in the non-UK press.
cryptocurrency wrote: » That has been debunked 1000s of times
cryptocurrency wrote: » no nation worth its salt would sign the deal with the backstop that holds the UK hostage. All nations need to be able to leave deals unilaterally.
