Paddy Cow wrote: » Men who don't do well in the dating stakes, are much like women who don't do well in the dating stakes - they have insecurities/low self esteem and that is not attractive to anyone, no matter how beautiful/handsome your face is.
Candyspain wrote: » Usually without the insults Candie, ask yourself why you feel the need to stoop that low. It's perfectly possible to disagree and engage in healthy debate without trying to attack someone personally.
Candyspain wrote: » Would you like to engage in discussion?
Candyspain wrote: » Often in a group of male friends you get one or two men who have no problem having casual sex regularly, for the rest it's called "getting lucky". The men who "get lucky" are the sexually unappealing ones who will likely wind up having chore sex a few times per month if they get married. The men who can get casual sex without difficulty are the minority of sexually appealing men, as a rule of thumb.
Paddy Cow wrote: » I've heard of the term "incel" but wasn't really familiar with it so I googled it. Jesus, these sound even scarier than MGTOW. Incels feel entitled to sex :eek: whereas MGTOW just avoid the opposite sex. The incels have actually committed murdershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel
Candie wrote: » Is it MGTOW or the whole incel thing at play here? You know they type, work out a formula and women put out, because of the whole hive mind thing the ladies have going on. Probably the latter, though neither is ideal for a healthy view of relationships.
super_furry wrote: » Incels with attitude!
At least four mass murders, resulting in 45 deaths, have been committed in North America by people who have either self-identified as incels or who had mentioned incel-related names and writings in their private writings or Internet postings. Incel communities have been criticized by the media and researchers for being misogynistic, encouraging violence, as well as spreading extremist views and radicalizing their members.
Candyspain wrote: » Candie nobody asked you for your honest impression of me. What you are looking for is a reaction, I'm sorry I can't give that to you.
Paddy Cow wrote: » Men Going Their Own Way. It's a movement for heterosexual "nice" men who have been burned by evil woman. They've decided it's easier to live a celibate life and have no interaction with soul destroying women, rather than addressing their short comings which would explain why they attract users/gold diggers. Most of these men suffer from low self esteem and if they worked on themselves, they would go on to form healthy relationships. Instead they wallow in self pity and some of them really do seem to hate women, which is scary!
Candyspain wrote: » I don't think 10% of men are attracted to women, I think around 10% of men are sexually atttractive to women, that's an estimate of course, it could be 5% or it could be 20%, whatever it is I think it's a small minority. My views aren't depressing at all, it is your interpretation of them that are depressing. I'm just describing reality non judgementally. Why do you think I'm directing my views towards MGTOW? I think that's quite a silly movement. I love women and seducing women far too much to have anything to do with MGTOW.
Candyspain wrote: » Why do you feel the need to compulsively comment on what I post, I'm sure there are other things you could be doing if you aren't interested in genuine discussion.
Autosport wrote: » What does MGTOW stand for?
Candyspain wrote: » It's only transactional for unattractive men, ie most husbands Are you another poster that just wants to throw negative comments towards people, I'm afraid you won't get the reaction you're looking for.
Candyspain wrote: » Would you like to have a positive discussion, or do you just want to make negative comments towards people?
Paddy Cow wrote: » Ok. If you want a discussion, why do you think that only 10% of men are attracted to women? I would consider that figure extremely low. Why do you think I'm being hostile? I think you are jaded because of your depressing views on relationships between men and women. You might be full of energy but it sounds like you are directing that energy towards MGTOW, rather than finding a healthy relationship that full fills you.
Candie wrote: » I don't know how you get through the day.
Candyspain wrote: » Why are you being so hostile? I'm happy to discuss further but not interested in slagging matches. It's perfectly possible to disagree with somone and have a debate or discussion. Why would you think I'm jaded? I'm full of energy.
Candyspain wrote: » The majority of women do not find their husband attractive. Only a small percentage of men are sexually attractive to women, say around 10% or so for argument's sake.
Candyspain wrote: » A study on OK Cuppid....
Candyspain wrote: » The majority of women do not find their husband attractive. Only a small percentage of men are sexually attractive to women, say around 10% or so for argument's sake. A study on OK Cuppid for example found that women find around 80% of men below averagein terms of attractiveness if I recall correctly. This makes sense evolutionarily, a woman's eggs are expensive, she should avoid wasting them on suboptimal men so the attraction mechanism in her head only gives her attraction for the top men. Most men for example would have sex with an average woman as sperm is cheap, most women would not have sex with an average man as eggs are expensive This leaves women with a dilemma, if they want a family most women need to settle down with a man who they don't find sexually attractive. There is a reason there are so many memes based on sexless marriages, because there is a lot of truth to it that people can recognise. Even when there is sex in these marriages it is usually transactional in nature rather than out of genuine desire as the wife knows that she has to at least give her husband sex occasionally, even if that means boring routine sex. The husband infers from his married sex life that his wife just isn't really into sex, the truth is she just isn't into sex with him Little does he realise that there is a good chance his wife had genuine desire sex with desirable men in her younger days, or even while in their current relationship, where she begged for her partner to cum on her ass/tits/face and fukc her in the ass. He couldn't fathom that as a possibility as he never gets to see her true sexual nature as it lies dormant within her. But it is a lot more likely than many husbands realise. These husbands are often controlled in subtle ways by their wives, the wives use their sexual agency to control them. This is why the sex is transactional, they only get it if they are a good little boy and do what their told. As a result their wives lose respect for them which makes the husbands even more unappealing sexually. Many of these huaband's believe that their wives wouldn't have casual sex as they were made to wait for months. Little do they know that it just takes the right man in the right place and they would have casual sex. As a rule of thumb, if a woman makes you wait for sex it usually isn't worth the wait. Before a man has a monogomous relationship he should ensure that he can regularly have casual sex with attractive women so that he knows he has value sexually to women. That's all for now folks, feel free to subscribe to my newsletter.